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Old 11-17-2018, 05:11 PM
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Default Down 0-1 ball count, WWYD (WBWYKA)

You are down 0-1 in ball count, his pocket is the popular one, so WWYD?



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Old 11-17-2018, 05:16 PM
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Kick two rails into the bottom of the thirteen..
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Old 11-17-2018, 05:37 PM
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Before i take a 2 rail kick off the 13 I take a scratch and push the 1 ball a little out leaving him stuck to the rack. Just to see what he does. He takes a scratch back and then I kick.
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Old 11-17-2018, 06:09 PM
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Thin the one and go up to the first diamond on his side of the short rail.
You could also take an intentional down to the bottom rail behind the 13 10 bank blockers.
I saw Orcollo make a similar combo on someone and actually got the cue ball to the bottom rail but we don't shoot as good as him.
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Old 11-17-2018, 09:24 PM
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I'd double him up down table with an intentional scratch and wait for a better moment.
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Old 11-17-2018, 09:53 PM
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Default Work backwards out of this trap

Shoot the 1ball uptable to hit a rail leaving the cue frozen to the 4ball. Now your opponent has to get the cue ball to a rail. Now you have a good chance of getting to the balls near his pocket for a safe, a clear out or a bank. Your opponent is now in a jam and needs to play himself out of his own trap.
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Old 11-17-2018, 09:53 PM
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The 7 looks to go easily, therefore, up table is no good. I like two rail kick at the 13.
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Old 11-17-2018, 10:00 PM
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Kick two rails into the bottom of the thirteen..
Yes. Do it now while you can cue it well. Taking a foul will make it worse when he leaves you there tree topped. Now is the time. Why expect him to be dumb.
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Old 11-17-2018, 11:07 PM
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Before i take a 2 rail kick off the 13 I take a scratch and push the 1 ball a little out leaving him stuck to the rack. Just to see what he does. He takes a scratch back and then I kick.
The reason I like pushing the 1 ball out here and taking a scratch is that there are no balls that go in for you. Pushing the 1 ball out gives you one.
You are already virtually tree topped so if he takes a scratch and puts you in the stack getting under the 13 is not that much harder.
If he takes a scratch you are now playing 10/9 if he doesnt you are playing 10/8 and he might make a mistake. He leaves you a bank you have the option to go for it and have the 1 out there to play position for. I like having options.
I like to have my opponents second guessing as well.
Sure taking a 2 rail kick right a way is good but remember you are leaving whitey out in the open and he can come back and put you in the stack again.
Or if you arent precise might leave him a bank to put you in worse position.

I like taking that one step.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:34 AM
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Kick two rails into the bottom of the thirteen..
yep, thats what I like too...
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