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Old 11-07-2006, 09:01 PM
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No matter what else you play, always bet a gray.
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Old 11-12-2006, 02:32 AM
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Default I never, ever win money at the movies.....

...... yeah, gambling on horses or anything else can be a problem, but almost everyone with a heartbeat wants more than one form of entertainment..... when I go to the movies I lose my money 100% of the time and I can't even talk to the woman I am with! Same goes for ball games due to noise and idiots standing up. And I have never had to wait long to get out of the parking lot at a horse track. Now if you are talking about DOG TRACKS, then you probably should take Cornbread's advice, as documented on this thread, and throw your money out the window and pass on by..... at least you wont have the stress of losing even when you when at the stinkin dog track......
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Old 11-12-2006, 12:15 PM
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Now if you are talking about DOG TRACKS, then you probably should take Cornbread's advice, as documented on this thread, and throw your money out the window and pass on by...
You right about that, TJ!! Once in a great while though, we have to visit the track in Mobile to contribute to the Greyhound Retirement Fund, where the odds are only slightly more favorable than the Louisiana Lottery. At least you don't have to sit there and watch a jockey pull up on your nag comin' around the 3rd turn...

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Old 11-27-2006, 04:59 PM
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This is one sad post. The majority of people telling a guy how to make money on the horses...

Sad.. Sad... Sad... Sad....

Here's some tips. The odds in favor of you winning at dogs or horses is virtually nil. You might win once in a while, but you will generally be broke, just like generations of champion poolplayers before you.

If you MUST gamble at something other than pool, go to a casino.

Does the casino have poker? If not, then does it have Blackjack? If so, are you a master card counter? Do you have a huge bankroll?

If the casino does not have poker AND you do not meet the requirements for BlackJack, then leave the casino.

Do not play the lottery with more money than you are willing to flush down the toilet. The lottery is a voluntary tax on the poor. (Generally)

Hope this helps...

Pogue

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Old 12-25-2006, 12:22 AM
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Lot's of ways to win at horses, almost none work. If you know the "jockey's race" and a jockey it is a lock. I did very well betting the dogmeat races looking for a little class, and often a horse that is shortening up that race or the race before. Never bet a horse that is lengthening his distance for the first time. They win, but maybe one time in a hundred.

Knowing the horses, jockeys, and trainers does increase your odds of winning. However, as a former horse owner that had many friends that were horse owners, I knew many jockeys and trainers that were constantly broke because they bet the nags. The fact that they didn't win when they lived at the track every day was a big hint that I took to heart.

If you really want to go to the track and try to win, get the form the day before. Pick the three races that look the most promising, maybe two alternates. Only bet three races! Learn what a horse looks like when it is ready to go. You also have to know the condition it was in when it ran previous races or this means little. If the horse you like looks like it is in racing shape that day and isn't going off a heavy favorite, bet it across. Only when two or three horses are clearly the class of the field do I go with an exacta playing them both ways or boxing them. Usually a no hoper sneaks in and cleans out that money regardless. The folks on the inside collect big, everyone else was a chump.

One final tip. Most of the big time trainers and owners use runners to place their bets if they bet at the track so seeing them at the window doesn't lower the odds. Many bookies lay off bets at the track too, themselves or more commonly using runners. Knowing who these runners are and jumping in line behind them can pay big.

You won't have much time left for one-pocket if you play the ponies with even the faintest hope of success, a lot of hours involved. I'm well ahead lifetime, but it is because I plunged far deeper than I should have once when I was drunk and a longshot that I had let someone talk me out of betting three months before romped home in the mud. Yet another thing you have to know, how each horse runs on various tracks and in various conditions. After you know all of this, if you bet quarterhorses, all can be won or lost in the quarter second after the gates pop open. A slip, stumble, or awkward jockey and even the best are toast.

I loved the horses themselves but with off track betting all around me I haven't bet a dime off track or in the last twenty-five years since I have been outside the daily loop.

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(edit: Sorry to bring this to the top. I lurk here occasionally but rarely post. I didn't notice the thread was months old!)

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Old 12-26-2006, 01:13 PM
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As a long time wagerer on greyhounds and horses, I would recommend David Davidowitz's book to you, entitled "betting the thouroughbreds", this gentleman was a very close friend of andy beyer,who came up with the speed ratings used so prominately by the "Daily Racing Form" I think to be sucessfull gambler on horses you need to know a lot, and be willing to invest a lot of research time as well. David's book will tell you everything you need to know to give yourself a "fighting" chance. If you read it, let me know what you think. Sincerely, Charles Harrigan:
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Old 12-26-2006, 01:16 PM
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[QUOTE=charles harrigan]As a long time wagerer on greyhounds and horses, I would recommend David Davidowitz's book to you, entitled "betting the thouroughbreds", this gentleman was a very close friend of andy beyer,who came up with the speed ratings used so prominately by the "Daily Racing Form" I think to be sucessfull gambler on horses you need to know a lot, and be willing to invest a lot of research time as well. David's book will tell you everything you need to know to give yourself a "fighting" chance. If you read it, let me know what you think. Sincerely, Charles Harrigan
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:33 AM
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At the Cozy Cue on warren&greenfield I heard Cornbread Red give his opinion on going to the track. Which is what many of the guys did at 5p.m. each day. He said "I'll go bet on them when they come here and bet on me". This was in the mid to late 80's and it still rings true today. Bet on yourself or get a job.
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:01 AM
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There were only two legends in the annals of Chicago horse racing history that were also pool players, Race Track Rick and the afore mentioned, Race Track Phil. Believe his words, he speaks the truth.
Bill, I will have two of the greatest handicapper's in the history of para-mutual betting as my advisors at the upcomming DCC.
I can hardly wait... praise the Lord, I'll be rich.!!! Do you want in ?

Dick <---- I coulda been a jockey, if I was 125 lbs. lighter. (wait a minute, that IS a jockey)

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Old 12-24-2008, 12:47 AM
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Okay Ive recently pick up a bad habit. From what i here it has kept many of a good pool player busted. Yes horses.. CAn or will anybody give me a horse betting tutorial. Like what to do what not to do.. Thought this would be fun to see the comments.. Im waitin..
A great line from "The Bank Dick" Fields to the bank examiner: "Do you bet the ponies?" Bank examiner "No" Fields:"That's a very good system"
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