Cowboy Dennis
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L.V.C. is up 1 to -1 and it's Cliff's shot. What would you do?
Lee Van Corteza vs. C. Joyner 2013 D.C.C.
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Miller
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think you gotta go. 9.
Cloidius
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I agree with you here. I think the angle might allow for a gentle stroke to carom the cue off of the 3, so that it nestles up to the 7, 14, 13 wall. With the right speed, to not sell out the cross, you can really focus on sticking the cue ball there.
However, I dont think you really want to make the 9 here. If you can lay it in your hole, or down on the foot rail, while you've stuck whitey to the wall, your man will have virtually no option but to move the nine, possibly earning you a better look at his hole.
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backplaying
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It would take a great shot, but he can shoot the 5 into the left side of the 8 moving the 15 also. Offensively, I would shoot the 9, and it might be easier than the defensive shot.
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This one is not that hard at all. You just donate a ball to him to be on the safe side and shoot hard enough not a leave a bank on that stripe that you are caroming off of, and force follow on down to the end rail. Well worth a ball to get out of this entrapment..
One pocket Smitty
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I would shoot the 5 into the 8 with follow, trying to move the 5 and 8 to my side and leave the CB next to the 15.---Smitty
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I see a shot, I will put up 2 variations of it, depending on how it lays exactly.
Shoot straight into the 4 ball, 4 ball into the 15 and force the cb past the 6 and 8. Or, it may lay to where he can shoot straigt into the 4 ball, 4 ball slightly cuts the 10 (10 then does some very good damage for you), and 4 goes into the 15 (maybe after 1 rail, or off the 8), force white forward. Another, perhaps less likely variation could be to force forward off the 4 after a little billiard on the 5.
If I can see the whole 8 here, I am def shooting Bernie's shot though.
Shoot straight into the 4 ball, 4 ball into the 15 and force the cb past the 6 and 8. Or, it may lay to where he can shoot straigt into the 4 ball, 4 ball slightly cuts the 10 (10 then does some very good damage for you), and 4 goes into the 15 (maybe after 1 rail, or off the 8), force white forward. Another, perhaps less likely variation could be to force forward off the 4 after a little billiard on the 5.
If I can see the whole 8 here, I am def shooting Bernie's shot though.
kingrichardthelionheart
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the 3 ball.
NH Steve
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That's what I am looking at too. Just enough speed to make sure the 9 reaches the bottom rail. I see Cliff already owes one, but don't know if he is actually on a scratch or not. Definitely don't want to get on two scratches here.
petie
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I would slow roll to the 9 and hit it full in the face and settle the CB on those three blockers. Take a scratch but don't sell out the game.
NH Steve
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I see a pretty good clear out shot on second look. Of course no telling how it actually ends up, but I am pretty sure some good things would happen, due to the carom angle on the 4-10 -- along with the potential for some bad, lol. But a hard strike on the 4 definitely sends the 10 into balls toward Cliff's pocket, and it looks like the carom angle on the 4 sends it down to clear out the 15. If you in addition, hit the 4 a little on the right side (shooter's perspective), then the cue ball drives into the 5-ball for sure, also banking it in the direction of Cliff's pocket. A lot happening that you can't control of course, but definitely some balls moving toward your side!
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Lee Van Corteza vs. C. Joyner 2013 D.C.C.
That's the first shot that I saw. I've been trying to talk myself into it since then lol, but I don't like where the cue end up if you don't make a ball. In the end I'm going with Bernie's shot, which is still no gimme but a safer choice IMO.
That's the first shot that I saw. I've been trying to talk myself into it since then lol, but I don't like where the cue end up if you don't make a ball. In the end I'm going with Bernie's shot, which is still no gimme but a safer choice IMO.
androd
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If I'm gonna screw up shooting at someones pocket, It's gonna be mine.
Rod.
P.S. Of course I can pay off and start another game. I don't do tourneys.
Rod.
P.S. Of course I can pay off and start another game. I don't do tourneys.
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Not a nice place but I see several options.
A fairly safe one would be a slight masse to hit the rail behind the 8 ball and park the cue ball on or near the rail. Not a hard shot at all.
If you have a clear view of the 8 ball then a removal shot is a good option.
If you are thinking about shooting the 9 ball there will be little reward if you make it.
Better to cut the 3 ball with a much better chance of getting an open shot if you make it.
Bill S.
A fairly safe one would be a slight masse to hit the rail behind the 8 ball and park the cue ball on or near the rail. Not a hard shot at all.
If you have a clear view of the 8 ball then a removal shot is a good option.
If you are thinking about shooting the 9 ball there will be little reward if you make it.
Better to cut the 3 ball with a much better chance of getting an open shot if you make it.
Bill S.
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Bottom line: you either gotta go or you gotta try a pocketectomy. There are no other options here that are reasonable.
Lee Van Corteza vs. C. Joyner 2013 D.C.C.
Aside: Pocketectomy is the single greatest term I have learned on this site.
Aside: Pocketectomy is the single greatest term I have learned on this site
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Cowboy Dennis
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Very good Fish, you win a cookie
. You're really getting too good at this Bernie[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXA338ro1mo[/ame]
Cliff hit it good and it came out fairly well:
He left it here for L.V.C.:
