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Old 06-05-2018, 10:48 AM
Bob Farr Bob Farr is offline
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I didn't notice in this tournament but at the Buffalo's One Pocket event last week the guys were laying on the table, up on the table on both knees. Was that just special for that event or has the rule changed about having one foot on the floor? I was shocked! If I kneeled up on the table with my metal knees, it would break the slate. lol
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Old 06-05-2018, 11:45 AM
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That's correct Jim. I noticed a couple of players doing that, but assumed that the rule was not being enforced. Here's the WPA rule:

6.12 Cue Stick on the Table

If the shooter uses his cue stick in order to align a shot by placing it on the table without having a hand on the stick, it is a foul.


I know that the rule is in effect at the DCC. Shannon Daulton used to lay his stick on the table while sighting a shot once in awhile. I thought if I ever had the misfortune of drawing him, that I might be able to use that rule against him-- since I'd have no chance to beat him anyway...

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Lets not get carried away on the rule making and enforcement. Pool lawyers drive me crazy trying to win on a technicality.
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Old 06-05-2018, 11:54 AM
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Lets not get carried away on the rule making and enforcement. Pool lawyers drive me crazy trying to win on a technicality.
Itís not even close trying to win on a technicality. Why have rules like move two balls is a foul or any other fouls. I read on AZBILLIARDS where JJ called a foul on a guy marking the rail with a piece of chalk to mark his bank spot. Isnít that a foul.

I canít hardly believe all the books people have read in their life yet must have never read a rule book
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Old 06-05-2018, 12:20 PM
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What a tournament. I had so much fun seeing everyone on our site. Chris Swart for offering up his room and added monies, Steve Booth for staging, Daniel Busch for streaming and all the members behind the scenes helping put the event together can not be overlooked. Jim (Pilot) played the best of anyone and deserved his win. A break here or there could have seen different players being on top at the end but that's the nature of our game. You have to get a few roles and play well to be there at the end. I felt that about at least fifteen of our players could have won the event. That's how close the skill levels were. One point of interest is how my final match with the pilot played out. First off the hot seat winner was awarded the first break in our race to three. I think that was a very good rule. The hot seat should be awarded that advantage for playing well through the event. In my mind there was no controversy about laying the cue on the table which I did do it in pattering out some of my shots. I was reminded about it and that's that. Frankly I am disappointed in myself for not knowing that rule. There has been quite a lot said about shot clocks and so forth. We have beaten that to death over the years both on our site and other sites. I say play to the rules of the event and if those rules conflict with your opinions, don't play. The recent event at Buffalo's allowed players to climb on the tables. OK those were the rules. Sorry for my digression. I played seventeen hours on the last day and loved every minute of it. My wife tells me to lose weight so I'll have better stamina. Why would I do that? Lastly, Pilot get your good playing behind back to Ventura cause I want a rematch. Good shooting Jim.
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Old 06-05-2018, 12:27 PM
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I didn't notice in this tournament but at the Buffalo's One Pocket event last week the guys were laying on the table, up on the table on both knees. Was that just special for that event or has the rule changed about having one foot on the floor? I was shocked! If I kneeled up on the table with my metal knees, it would break the slate. lol
That is a local rule used at Buffalo's so they continued to allow it during the tournament. Those that gamble at that room regularly like Danny, know that special rule so he asked if they are aloowing to climb on the table. It is not a legal shot unless specifically allowed.
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Old 06-05-2018, 12:39 PM
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That is a local rule used at Buffalo's so they continued to allow it during the tournament. Those that gamble at that room regularly like Danny, know that special rule so he asked if they are aloowing to climb on the table. It is not a legal shot unless specifically allowed.
Thanks for the answer. It was strange to see that.
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Old 06-05-2018, 12:40 PM
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What a tournament. I had so much fun seeing everyone on our site. Chris Swart for offering up his room and added monies, Steve Booth for staging, Daniel Busch for streaming and all the members behind the scenes helping put the event together can not be overlooked. Jim (Pilot) played the best of anyone and deserved his win. A break here or there could have seen different players being on top at the end but that's the nature of our game. You have to get a few roles and play well to be there at the end. I felt that about at least fifteen of our players could have won the event. That's how close the skill levels were. One point of interest is how my final match with the pilot played out. First off the hot seat winner was awarded the first break in our race to three. I think that was a very good rule. The hot seat should be awarded that advantage for playing well through the event. In my mind there was no controversy about laying the cue on the table which I did do it in pattering out some of my shots. I was reminded about it and that's that. Frankly I am disappointed in myself for not knowing that rule. There has been quite a lot said about shot clocks and so forth. We have beaten that to death over the years both on our site and other sites. I say play to the rules of the event and if those rules conflict with your opinions, don't play. The recent event at Buffalo's allowed players to climb on the tables. OK those were the rules. Sorry for my digression. I played seventeen hours on the last day and loved every minute of it. My wife tells me to lose weight so I'll have better stamina. Why would I do that? Lastly, Pilot get your good playing behind back to Ventura cause I want a rematch. Good shooting Jim.
TAP TAP TAP - Jerry - it was amazing the stamina you displayed Sunday. I watched all day - went to bed - got up - watched again. I'd love to know your secret brother!

John
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Old 06-05-2018, 12:51 PM
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TAP TAP TAP - Jerry - it was amazing the stamina you displayed Sunday. I watched all day - went to bed - got up - watched again. I'd love to know your secret brother!

John
me too !!!!!
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Old 06-05-2018, 01:01 PM
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What a tournament. I had so much fun seeing everyone on our site. Chris Swart for offering up his room and added monies, Steve Booth for staging, Daniel Busch for streaming and all the members behind the scenes helping put the event together can not be overlooked. Jim (Pilot) played the best of anyone and deserved his win. A break here or there could have seen different players being on top at the end but that's the nature of our game. You have to get a few roles and play well to be there at the end. I felt that about at least fifteen of our players could have won the event. That's how close the skill levels were. One point of interest is how my final match with the pilot played out. First off the hot seat winner was awarded the first break in our race to three. I think that was a very good rule. The hot seat should be awarded that advantage for playing well through the event. In my mind there was no controversy about laying the cue on the table which I did do it in pattering out some of my shots. I was reminded about it and that's that. Frankly I am disappointed in myself for not knowing that rule. There has been quite a lot said about shot clocks and so forth. We have beaten that to death over the years both on our site and other sites. I say play to the rules of the event and if those rules conflict with your opinions, don't play. The recent event at Buffalo's allowed players to climb on the tables. OK those were the rules. Sorry for my digression. I played seventeen hours on the last day and loved every minute of it. My wife tells me to lose weight so I'll have better stamina. Why would I do that? Lastly, Pilot get your good playing behind back to Ventura cause I want a rematch. Good shooting Jim.
Thank you Jerry for your kind words. I have a two day trip to Burbank in June and three people who want to play from Ventura to Ontario. So Iíll just have to see how the trip works out.

I love to seek out the best players in the areas that I travel to. Last years tournament I got to practice with Dave Gross and came away thinking, OMG what a stroke, how am I going to beat this guy. Dave gave me a nice whooping and lesson. I played Jerry in his room and left thinking, dang thereís great players everywhere. Thursday night I meet John Rawski and John was kind enough to beat my brains out and have a great time doing it. So come tournament time I had to play all three and managed to get just the right combination of luck and play to eek out hill-hill matches with all three.
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Old 06-05-2018, 01:06 PM
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Jim,

Daniel just posted this picture of us on facebook. It was taken before our match but could have easily been taken after your spectacular game winning shot. It may be my new favorite picture.
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