The Hound's last hurrah

[fred bentivegna]

After reading Alfie's book and remembering some of my time on the road, I believe Earl Shriver (gone) would qualify for your list.
Rod.

He has already been remembered and added to the latest list.

Beard

 

[fred bentivegna]

New list by area

New list by area

I have an idea for you Freddy, I think you should arrange our society members into regions around the country, who has the most, who are the most qualified, been around the longest, if they want to include, biggest scores ever made!

Fellow member;
Bill Smith “Mr3Cushion”
http://mr3cushion.com

Here is an expanded list (as I think of them) according to the area they came from. I need help with identifying where the first few members came from. As you can see, Chicago, NY, PA, and KY dominate the field.

Calhoun Bill Kelleher
Chris Eddie McGeehan gone
Earl Schriever
Eufala Kid Glen Womack gone
Flyboy Jimmy Spears
Frosty
Gene The Glove Catrone gone
John Henry McHenry
Kid Delicious Dan Basovich
Little Al Romero
Mary Kinniston
Preacher Red Chas Jones gone
Robert Cotton LeBlanc
Rotation Slim Geo Hairston gone
Sammy Jumping Sammy Jones
Sonny Springer
Surfer Rod Curry
Tony Fargo Ferguson
Weldon Junior Rogers
Squirell Marshall Carpenter AL
Vernon Eliot AL gone
Country Calvin Hargrove AR
Sammy Eubank AR, Little Rock
Scott Frost AZ
Boston Joey Kiley Boston gone
Boston Shorty Johnson Boston gone
Barbara Cooney CA
Chris MacDonald CA
Cole Dickson CA
Geece Gerace CA gone
Grady Mathews CA
Keith McReady CA
Oakland Don DeCoy CA gone
Popcorn John Miller CA
Tugboat Whaley,Maurice CA gone
Waterdog Donnie Edwards CA gone
Harold Denson CA 3 card monte gone
Canadian Pete Tasic Canada gone
Marcel Camp Canada gone
Gene Skinner CA,Fullerton, gone
Jack Cooney CA,San Fran
Tommy The Sailor Kramer CA,San Fran gone
Artie Bodendorfer Chicago
Billy Smith Chicago
Bugs Rucker Chicago gone
Freddy Bentivegna Chicago
Ike Runnels Chicago
Isadore Pony Rosen Chicago gone
Jet Johnson Chicago gone
Paul Jones Chicago gone
Peaches James Rochford Chicago
Piggy Banks Rogers Chicago
Romburg Kenny Remus Chicago gone
Tony Cosentino Chicago
Sugar shack Johnny Novak Conn
Larry Liscotti Conn. gone
Cuban Joe Valdez Cuba gone
Jennie JAM (Keith) DC
Rags John Fitzpatrick DC gone
Strawberry Melvin Brooks DC
Junior Goff Fla
Ray Booth Fla ?
Jimmy Reid Fla, West Palm
Wade Crane/Billy Johnson GA gone
Handsome Danny Jones GA, Atlanta gone
Nate Colbert GA, Atlanta
Ray Maples GA, Atlanta gone
Hubert Cokes IN, Evansville gone
Nick Varner IN, Evansville
Michigan City Sam Langford IN, Michigan City
Buddy Hall KY
Clyde Childress KY gone
Cornbread Red Billy Burge KY gone
Shannon Daulton KY
Truman Hogue KY, Louisville
Berle Gabbard KY, Corbin
One Eyed Tony Howard KY, Corbin gone
Sid Heard KY, Corbin/Hazard ?
Greg Sullivan KY, Louisville,
Baltimore Buddy Dennis MD, Baltimore
Jack Parks Partos MD, Baltimore gone
Ronnie Sypher MD, Ocean City
Tony Coleman MI, Benton Harbor
Baby Face Alton Whitlow MI, Detroit gone
Bushwhacker Gary Nolan MI, Detroit
Danny Medina MI, Detroit
Detroit Slim Paul Graham MI, Detroit gone
Detroit Whitey Beauchene MI, Detroit ?
Edgar Shake and Bake White MI, Detroit
Jew Paul Brusloff MI, Detroit
Kilroy Roy Kosmolski MI, Detroit gone
Lori Shampo MI, Detroit gone
Benny the Goose Conway MO
St. Louis Louie Roberts MO, St Louis gone
Bill Lawson NC gone
Cliff Joyner NC
Luther Lassiter NC gone
Jersey Red Breitkoff NJ gone
Little Frankie Filerino NJ, Jersey city
Cannonball Eddie Ed Kienowski NY ?
Country Charles Monroe NY
Johnny Irish Lineen NY gone
Kokomo Joe Ross NY gone
Minnesota Fats NY gone
New York Blackie Bonife NY gone
Sailor Barge (Wm) NY gone
Staten Island Tom Halliday NY gone
Richie Ambrose NY, Bronx
Brooklyn Butch Fragone NY, Brooklyn
Brooklyn Charlie NY, Brooklyn
Brooklyn Jimmy Cassas NY, Brooklyn
Brooklyn Johnny Irvolino NY, Brooklyn gone
Brooklyn Pancho/Harvey Strauss NY, Brooklyn gone
Danny DiLiberto NY, Buffalo
Greg Hatch NY, Buffalo gone
Port Chester Mickey Carpinelli NY, Port Chester gone
Vince Furio NY, Rochester
Don Willis OH gone
Fat Glen Knowles OH gone
Steve Cookie Monster Cook OH gone
Clem Eugene Metz OH, Cinncinnati
Joey Speith OH, Cinncinnati gone
Ronnie Allen OK
Portland Don Watson OR,Portland gone
Jimmy Fusco PA, Phila
Mike LeBron PA, Phila
Patcheye Henry Basheer PA, Phila
Peter Rabbit Linhardt PA, Phila gone
Philly Joe Veasey PA, Phila gone
Tommy Bellote PA, Pittsburg
Bill Incardona PA, Pittsburgh
Bunny Rogoff PA, Pittsburgh
Clare/ 4 yrs with Jimmy Reid PA, Pittsburgh
Jockey Norman Howard PA, Pittsburgh
Marvin Henderson PA, Pittsburgh gone
Pittsburg John Stapoli PA, Pittsburgh gone
Jose Parica Philipines
Miami Isaac Gonsales Puerto Rico
Eddie The Hat Burton SoCar gone
Cannonball Lefty John Chapman Tex gone
Dale Smith Tex
Frank Bananas Rodriguez Tex gone
James the sniper Christopher Tex
James Youngblood Brown Tex
John Hager Sr Tex
Mexican Johnny Vasquez Tex gone
Steve the Lizard Smith Tex
UJ Puckett Tex gone
Eddie Taylor TN gone
Black Bart, Bob Ogburn Va
Seattle Joe Salazar WA, Seattle
Alley Oop Elilhu O'Rear WI
Willie Munson WI, Milwaukee
Al Miller WI, Racine gone

 

[androd]

I believe Sammy Jones and John Hager were both from Ky. I'm sure about John.
Rod.

 

[fred bentivegna]

I believe Sammy Jones and John Hager were both from Ky. I'm sure about John.
Rod.

Duly noted. Thank you.

Beard

Years ago I probably coulda got big reward money from the Govt. for turning in this list.

 

[vapros]

Freddie, this is a strange roster, indeed. In the beginning, you listed a bunch of qualities that were not considered at all, but I can't find any mention of the traits that you did examine in preparing the list. There must be at least a few things that tie these guys together. What are they? Have they all done time, been shot or spit on the sidewalk?

I'm surprised to find my gentle little giant included - Jose Parica (eye of a turkey buzzard, nerve of a house burglar, grin of a cub scout). Yesterday I was asking you about Efren Reyes, but you have ignored him here. How are those two Filipinos different? Why only one Filipino on the list? Amang may have good cause for litigation.

What about Jack Hines? Too upstanding? Lacking in larceny? Lots of loose ends here, pal. :heh

 

[fred bentivegna]

I will say this again

I will say this again

Freddie, this is a strange roster, indeed. In the beginning, you listed a bunch of qualities that were not considered at all, but I can't find any mention of the traits that you did examine in preparing the list. There must be at least a few things that tie these guys together. What are they? Have they all done time, been shot or spit on the sidewalk?

I'm surprised to find my gentle little giant included - Jose Parica (eye of a turkey buzzard, nerve of a house burglar, grin of a cub scout). Yesterday I was asking you about Efren Reyes, but you have ignored him here. How are those two Filipinos different? Why only one Filipino on the list? Amang may have good cause for litigation.

What about Jack Hines? Too upstanding? Lacking in larceny? Lots of loose ends here, pal. :heh

I'll say this once again, Vappy. The most important consideration is the ability of the member to accept the other members. That sounds easy but it aint so when you consider some of the members like Detroit Whitey, Brooklyn Pancho, Ray Maples, Sammy Eubank. Scoundrels and rascals all. That is probably one of the best indicators, is that you must be a scoundrel at heart.
If SJD ever saw any of those people he would probably call the police on them. :heh Efren is too nice to call the police but he might tell one of his backers to do so.

Jose Amang is in. Efren is not. Your gentle little giant, Jose would steal your eyeballs and tell you you look much better without them. A stone rascal.

I dont know Jack Hines, but from what I have heard he probably belongs, but his rep hasnt got back to me strong enough.

 

[#Cruncher]

Beard,

I think the more stories you would hear about Jack Hines, the quicker he would be inducted into your SS.

Could you give me a short bio on a player from near my hometown that I never heard of... Michigan City Sam Langford?

Also, your list is a little biased against non-senior citizens. I think there are still a few solid hustlers running around under the age of 50. But to protect their id, I will not out them here....except for probably the most well known...Scooter. You don't have to like his style, but he definitely gets action going and knows ALL the moves.

By the way, I enjoyed the Benefit Dinner for Jet in Chinatown. On topic, I noticed, that I was sitting at the "normal" table, with a Billiards Digest writer, someone that's making a Billiards Documentary, and multiple law enforcenment officers! Quite the dichotomy between my table and the rest, lol.

 

[Bill]

I'll say this once again, Vappy. The most important consideration is the ability of the member to accept the other members. That sounds easy but it aint so when you consider some of the members like Detroit Whitey, Brooklyn Pancho, Ray Maples, Sammy Eubank. Scoundrels and rascals all. That is probably one of the best indicators, is that you must be a scoundrel at heart.
If SJD ever saw any of those people he would probably call the police on them. :heh Efren is too nice to call the police but he might tell one of his backers to do so.

Jose Amang is in. Efren is not. Your gentle little giant, Jose would steal your eyeballs and tell you you look much better without them. A stone rascal.

I dont know Jack Hines, but from what I have heard he probably belongs, but his rep hasnt got back to me strong enough.

You have some real POS listed up there ...

Jack Hines should be included as well as Seattle Sam Trivett Va (gone)

 

[fred bentivegna]

You have some real POS listed up there ...

Jack Hines should be included as well as Seattle Sam Trivett Va (gone)

Sam Trivett will go in because I had some interactions with him, 40 yrs ago. I cant speak for Jack Hines, since I never ran across him, but if I could get one more recommendation I would reconsider.

Incidentally, everybody on there aint POS. Plenty, plenty of good people and good humans. But I cant argue that there are some real creatures represented too.

Beard

 

[onepockethacker]

I'll say this once again, Vappy. The most important consideration is the ability of the member to accept the other members. That sounds easy but it aint so when you consider some of the members like Detroit Whitey, Brooklyn Pancho, Ray Maples, Sammy Eubank. Scoundrels and rascals all. That is probably one of the best indicators, is that you must be a scoundrel at heart.
If SJD ever saw any of those people he would probably call the police on them. :heh Efren is too nice to call the police but he might tell one of his backers to do so.

Jose Amang is in. Efren is not. Your gentle little giant, Jose would steal your eyeballs and tell you you look much better without them. A stone rascal.

I dont know Jack Hines, but from what I have heard he probably belongs, but his rep hasnt got back to me strong enough.

So let me sum this list up for everyone. This list is the why pool has been in the shitter for 50 years list.

 

[onepockethacker]

You have some real POS listed up there ...

Jack Hines should be included as well as Seattle Sam Trivett Va (gone)

LMFAO that is hilarious

 

[fred bentivegna]

Michigan City Sam

Michigan City Sam

Beard,

I think the more stories you would hear about Jack Hines, the quicker he would be inducted into your SS.

Could you give me a short bio on a player from near my hometown that I never heard of... Michigan City Sam Langford?

Also, your list is a little biased against non-senior citizens. I think there are still a few solid hustlers running around under the age of 50. But to protect their id, I will not out them here....except for probably the most well known...Scooter. You don't have to like his style, but he definitely gets action going and knows ALL the moves.

By the way, I enjoyed the Benefit Dinner for Jet in Chinatown. On topic, I noticed, that I was sitting at the "normal" table, with a Billiards Digest writer, someone that's making a Billiards Documentary, and multiple law enforcenment officers! Quite the dichotomy between my table and the rest, lol.

Michigan City Sam Langford had a big action bar in Michigan City, In. Many, many, road players lived with Sam, got staked, and played out of his joint. Alley Oop, Tommy the Sailor, Johnny Dollar, Canadian Pete, Robt LeBlanc, and a million other guys I cant think of at the moment.
Sam was also a very rough guy and did a 15 yrs stretch for murder. He has been out a few years and he is still around, but not in Michigan City anymore,
Our own Bill Smith stayed there once and got in a beef with Tommy the Sailor, and gave him a good conk on the noggin with a cue stick. An action that I came close to duplicating with Tommy many times. So much for the gentle side of billiard players. To make this a little worse, Tommy was fast asleep, passed out drunk at the time. The fact that Billy is half Italian might help to explain things a little better.
Beard

 

[onepockethacker]

I have great news for the people who have not yet made the list... there is still time...dont give up...aim low...all you need is to dump a few more backers, rob a few more people, commit some really lowlife piece of shit acts and you to can make the list... go for it!!

 

[Cowboy Dennis]

I cant speak for Jack Hines, since I never ran across him, but if I could get one more recommendation I would reconsider.



Beard

Freddy,

As to the inclusion of Hines, all I can say is this:

Detroit Whitey bad...Jack Hines badder.

He might actually lower the morality level of the entire group if included. He could've been Whitey's son.

Dennis

 

[Bill]

Freddy,

As to the inclusion of Hines, all I can say is this:

Detroit Whitey bad...Jack Hines badder.

He might actually lower the morality level of the entire group if included. He could've been Whitey's son.

Dennis

It's quite the list you've compiled Fred

Wasn't implying ALL were/are POS, I said some. And some of the some are real loser/scumbags. Not all, yes, but some

Dennis gave your second recommendation for Jack Hines - Detroit Whitey bad, Jack Hines badder. This is evidently what you're looking for? Have fun being associated with some of these "real creatures" as you called them

Just to be on the safe side, don't forget to hide the women and children ... at the annual SS convention

 

[Bill]

I have great news for the people who have not yet made the list... there is still time...dont give up...aim low...all you need is to dump a few more backers, rob a few more people, commit some really lowlife piece of shit acts and you to can make the list... go for it!!

this sort of sums it up ...

 

[Cowboy Dennis]

Dennis gave your second recommendation for Jack Hines - Detroit Whitey bad, Jack Hines badder. This is evidently what you're looking for? Have fun being associated with some of these "real creatures" as you called them

Bill,

My mistake for not being more specific I guess. I was not for or against Jack's inclusion in the SS, just giving Fred my opinion on Jack, that's all.

Dennis

 

[fred bentivegna]

Freddy,

As to the inclusion of Hines, all I can say is this:

Detroit Whitey bad...Jack Hines badder.

He might actually lower the morality level of the entire group if included. He could've been Whitey's son.

Dennis

Ok, done. Hines is in. However, the Jack Hines badder line, brought another left-out to mind. Someone who deserves to be at the top or bottom of the list, whatever one might prefer, Dallas Joey Torma.

Beard

 

[androd]

Ok, done. Hines is in. However, the Jack Hines badder line, brought another left-out to mind. Someone who deserves to be at the top or bottom of the list, whatever one might prefer, Dallas Joey Torma.

Beard

Joey was a sweetheart. He didn't play much pool after he grew up, but was very talented when he was young, I remember seeing he and Alfie in ft. Hood when he was a bout 16 yrs or so. He fit all the other criteria when he was older. I threaten to whip his ass some years later. He said as many people as I've screwed over " I've gotten my ass whipped so many times I've gotten pretty tough" I started laughing so hard I got over being mad.:lol
Rod.

 

[oldspurguy]

Joey was a sweetheart. He didn't play much pool after he grew up, but was very talented when he was young, I remember seeing he and Alfie in ft. Hood when he was a bout 16 yrs or so. He fit all the other criteria when he was older. I threaten to whip his ass some years later. He said as many people as I've screwed over " I've gotten my ass whipped so many times I've gotten pretty tough" I started laughing so hard I got over being mad.:lol
Rod.

I knew Joey back in the late 70's early 80's. He used to hang around Delta Downs in Vinton, La., with Bobby Pitts and Danny Jones. (Pitts played shortstop speed and hustled cards and dice). I knew Joey was a good player but didn't see him in action. He was supposed to be a pretty good one pocket player. I'm curious as to how good he was (for anyone that wants to comment). Also, is he still alive?