JUST IN!! New evidence surfaces in Da Beard teaching Efren onepocket!!

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Cowboy Dennis said:
Fred bentivegna said:
Freddie,

Here's my feeble attempt at understanding, I just don't have the time to search all posts and quote lines and names but I have done some searching.

First off, you must know that whatever I write the Duck is going to respond in his well-known style to anything he can make fun of. That said, I'll tell what I think, not that it means much. I'll also say that I listened to the audio clip that Greg posted, I figured I may as well since it was there.

When I saw this line from SJD I thought for sure he had made a mistake that you would jump all over. If he had written some weak shit like this to me I would have been very happy. It's well known that you played Efren during his very important formative first year of learning one-pocket. I've seen several different posts on the topic but most say that you and Efren played 4-5 times a week for about a year or so. This is when Efren's foundation for the game was laid. The things we learn in the first year from a knowledgeable player stay with us forever. As far as I'm concerned SJD partially confirmed what you've been saying all along. Efren was a genius and a great player but he was able to build on the foundation that you helped lay. He may have picked up the game anyway but learning it correctly from you and Billy I. in Chicago probably accelerated his learning curve. That cannot be argued by the Duck or anyone else. Efren never had to un-learn anything because he learned from guys who knew how to play the game.


These posts from Phil Welch say a lot about you & Efren playing.



Phil Welch has integrity and honesty from every post that I ever remember him making and his words mean a lot to me.


As you have since cleared up for us, you were gambling with Efren not "teaching" per se. That brings me to the "Executive West" thank you note. Since I don't remember how it came to be I would have to guess that it was solicited by you from Efren. If that's the case then it means almost nothing since a solicited "thank you" does not equal one freely given.

The audio that Greg posted is better since Efren made an unsolicited statement thanking you for having taught him how to play one-pocket. It may have been prodded in part by Steve mentioning Chicago-style one-pocket but Efren still made the statement unsolicited, therefore it carries weight. I think I understand from the audio clip that it was a hard-fought, one-ball-at-a-time game so it's understandable that the Chicago-style was mentioned by Steve. When Chicago is mentioned and Efren immediately thinks of you, that's very complimentary.

That Efren still thanks you after 25 years for being the guy he learned from means a lot and I would be justifiably proud if I had helped someone of his caliber, both as a man and as a player, become better at the game we love.

Anyway Freddie, I don't think I've revealed anything new here or anything special. You helped lay the foundation for Efren's one-pocket game and he built on that and became the greatest player ever. You will always be connected to him through that experience and like I said, I would be proud of that myself.

Dennis

That treatise is so reasonable and fulfilling that I had better reply and treat it as a bump before it gets lost in the Sherlock Holmes hijack. Thank you, Dennis for your objective treatment of the sensitive subject. Most of the time that is all I am looking for on the forums. Having to make sure you are prepared to serve up incontrovertible evidence every time one makes a declaration can be frustrating and discouraging.
Thanks again for putting a period and an honorable ending to this discussion.

Beard
 

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Hold on just a minute..!!!

Hold on just a minute..!!!

Cowboy Dennis said:
That Efren still thanks you after 25 years for being the guy he learned from means a lot and I would be justifiably proud if
I had helped someone of his caliber, both as a man and as a player, become better at the game we all love.

Dear BNDL,

I must point out, that in your glowing praise of your hero, you stepped WAY out of bounds on the highlighted statement above..???
Even an idiot like you should be aware, that PERSONALITY WISE, they are at completely OPPOSITE ends of the spectrum..:rolleyes:

HINT;...Can you, in your wildest imagination, see Efren conjuring up a 'BEAT LIST'.:confused: My God man, Effie doesn't even SHARK people :eek: Thankfully, he only took what he really needed to learn from Beardo, and let the rest lie..(probably only took a few weeks)..:p

Sherlock McDuck, Instructor to the Stars <---Almost let that one slip by..:D
 
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Dear BNDL,

I must point out, that in your glowing praise of your hero, you stepped WAY out of bounds on the highlighted statement above..???
Even an idiot like you should be aware, that PERSONALITY WISE, they are at completely OPPOSITE ends of the spectrum.

HINT;...Can you, in your wildest imagination, see Efren conjuring up a 'BEAT LIST'.:confused: My God man, Effie doesn't even SHARK people :eek: Thankfully, he only took what he really needed to learn from Beardo, and let the rest lie..(probably only took a few weeks)..:p

Sherlock McDuck, Instructor to the Stars <---Almost let that one slip by..:D

Dear Ducky,

I usually write my posts carefully chosing the words I use so as not to mislead or otherwise throw off anybody from my meaning. Most of the time a six yr. old or even SkeezerBill could understand my meaning but in your zest & zeal to "steam" Freddy or me you have lost it. How you can so completely miscontrue & misread & misinterpret what I wrote can only be explained by your finally having lost the last remnants of what passed for your mind.

You may want to read my post several times and see if you can figure out what it means as I'm a little tired from having played top-notch snooker for 3 hrs. today followed by an hour of straight-rail.

Trust me when I point it out for you (if I do), you are going to feel even stupider than usual and that's going some.

Also, I don't appreciate you calling and asking for money when I'm typing up a serious f@@king reply to your 364 days later reply to my post.

P.S. It's 2012 now DuckBrain:p.

P.Ps. I know this may throw you off but I also won't take 3 hours to finish my post and I probably won't "edit" it either. Don't let this confuse you.

Cowboy "nobody said it was going to be easy" Dennis
 

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Dear Ducky,

I usually write my posts carefully chosing the words I use so as not to mislead or otherwise throw off anybody from my meaning. Then why did you ? Most of the time a six yr. old or even SkeezerBill could understand my meaning but in your zest & zeal to "steam" Freddy or me you have lost it. How you can so completely miscontrue & misread & misinterpret what I wrote can only be explained by your finally having lost the last remnants of what passed for your mind.Boy, talk about the pot calling the kettle STUPID

You may want to read my post several and see if you can figure out what it means as I'm a little tired from having played top-notch snooker for 3 hrs. today followed by an hour of straight-rail. Any idiot, that plays FUNSIE pool for four hrs., deserves to be tired..But I bet you're glad you found another "Quad" to pound on..:rolleyes:

Trust me when I point it out for you (if I do), you are going to feel even stupider than usual and that's going some. Please don't bother, once was enough, reading your lame twaddle and pap..:frus

Also, I don't appreciate you calling and asking for money when I'm typing up a serious f@@king reply.....I hate to keep dunning you, for the $4200 you OWE me..!..Just belly up and PAY..!

P.S. It's 2012 now DuckBrain:p... I knew that, I was just letting El Bear, bask in the glory of his legacy...What are friends for,,?

Cowboy "nobody said it was going to be easy" Dennis

Dear BNDL,

Please do NOT bother me again, with your stories about being 'SHORT OF $$$...Work some OT and pay off, you nit..:cool:
 
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Cowship, Your obsession with me is beyond a mental illness. It is full blown psychosis. You cannot comprehend that there are people who have superior mental, physical skills and morals above yours so you insist on trying to drag them down to your levels. What a sad state of life you must have, to sit in your mothers basement, in your Mickey Mouse pajamas to have an existence blogging in the onepocket.org arena. You often refer to my drug use. I wonder how many hangovers you have had this week. Seven? I would be willing to bet that you have had more alcohol and drugs in one week than I have had for twenty years. As far as my obviously more intelligent and thoughtful post, you cannot compare. Please leave your mothers basement and get a life. Efren may have played one pocket in Chicago and if he did learn something while playing there, it was because of his ability to understand and to expand that knowledge which made him the greatest one pocket player of all time. You, Cowboy, are always willing to denigrate Efrens ability and by extension, the Beards. You are a bore.:lol:lol:lol
 

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Just found my philipino street slang conversion book. "Bata" = "Bear" Age old question, which came first the chicken or the egg?
 

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Cowship, Your obsession with me is beyond a mental illness. It is full blown psychosis. You cannot comprehend that there are people who have superior mental, physical skills and morals above yours so you insist on trying to drag them down to your levels. What a sad state of life you must have, to sit in your mothers basement, in your Mickey Mouse pajamas to have an existence blogging in the onepocket.org arena. You often refer to my drug use. I wonder how many hangovers you have had this week. Seven? I would be willing to bet that you have had more alcohol and drugs in one week than I have had for twenty years. As far as my obviously more intelligent and thoughtful post, you cannot compare. Please leave your mothers basement and get a life. Efren may have played one pocket in Chicago and if he did learn something while playing there, it was because of his ability to understand and to expand that knowledge which made him the greatest one pocket player of all time. You, Cowboy, are always willing to denigrate Efrens ability and by extension, the Beards. You are a bore..:lol

ScrzBill,

Allow me to intercede. (ie.butt in)...Let me just say, I have been around RBL quite a bit and he is NOT an alcoholic...I doubt he drinks any more than I do..:rolleyes:..As for drugs, he only consumes huge handfuls of diet pills..(so far, no success there)..;)..However, you did make a few pertinent observations...I can visualize him in his JAMMIE'S, while watching his [sic] SMALL porn collection from the 50's.. Also, as you pointed out, his brain IS quite addled from posting all that 'Greensh*t' he's obsessed with...And, its true, he can be an incredible BORE ! :lol

Deputy Duck <--May be the only one who can keep him in line...Let me know, if he verbally assaults you !!!

PS..Hope you understand my defending him..(He owes me huge $$$$$$)..:D
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ScrzBill,

Allow me to intercede. (ie.butt in)...Let me just say, I have been around RBL quite a bit and he is NOT an alcoholic...I doubt he drinks any more than I do..:rolleyes:..As for drugs, he only consumes huge handfuls of diet pills..(so far, no success there)..;)..However, you did make a few pertinent observations...I can visualize him in his JAMMIE'S, while watching his [sic] SMALL porn collection from the 50's.. Also, as you pointed out, his brain IS quite addled from posting all that 'Greensh*t' he's obsessed with...And, its true, he can be an incredible BORE ! :lol

Deputy Duck <--May be the only one who can keep him in line...Let me know, if he verbally assaults you !!
PS..Hope you understand my defending him..(He owes me huge $$$$$


That is the most backhanded defense ever written. Good job as usual Duck.
 
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