lll
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its several innings later
scott is up 3 balls to zero
its ochoas shot
scott is up 3 balls to zero
its ochoas shot
frost ochoa continued
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jtompilot
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Two rail the 7, draw as close to the 1 as possible or stun the qb and leave the 9 as a blocker.
One Pocket Ghost
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Brother Jim...that's why I love playing you - cuz you'd choose to shoot this, not close to you, small window 2-railer, while being 1" off the rail and having to jack up...
- Ghost
Miller
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Brother Jim...that's why I love playing you - cuz you'd choose to shoot this, not close to you, small window 2-railer, while being 1" off the rail and having to jack up...
- Ghost
whats your shot? thin off the 15 coming in behind the 1?
Tom Wirth
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There really isn't a lot to choose from here for Ochoa but he desperately needs something on his side of the table. The two rail shot on the seven doesn't offer much considering all that the Ghost had to say (which I totally agree with BTW). In addition, trying to get back to the side rail and near the one requires a hard hit so if he doesn't nail it he gives up any number of solid banks for Frost to choose from.
So if I were to stretch to find an offensive shot, Ochoa could play the two rail shot on the seven and stun the cue ball to the side rail for position on the nine, or he could look to kick the one back toward his hole trying to snooker the cue ball on the fifteen. This shot is easy to sell out on but the table looks bleak for Ochoa anyway. Taking strictly a defensive shot from here just prolongs the inevitable. Tough spot for Ochoa.
Tom
So if I were to stretch to find an offensive shot, Ochoa could play the two rail shot on the seven and stun the cue ball to the side rail for position on the nine, or he could look to kick the one back toward his hole trying to snooker the cue ball on the fifteen. This shot is easy to sell out on but the table looks bleak for Ochoa anyway. Taking strictly a defensive shot from here just prolongs the inevitable. Tough spot for Ochoa.
Tom
One Pocket Ghost
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...there's nothing to like here...but since I have to shoot...
...I believe I'll try and thread the needle and bank the 6 straight back - it looks like it might have just enough room to go - and I'll be playing it to miss to the right if it misses, leaving it by my pocket.....if I hit it fairly good, leaving the cueball near the head rail, it looks like Scott wont be able to shoot the 2 because of the scratch in the side, he'll be doubled up on the 8-7, and he won't like shooting the long-distance 9ball spot shot all that much, having a 3-0 lead and with me having a ball in front of my pocket.
- Ghost
petie
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Give him the one. Draw back to the rail just below the two balls.
Island Drive
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gulfportdoc
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Ochoa is in a real spot here. There's nothing offensive, except for Ghost's 6 ball straight back, which probably wouldn't go, so Frost would just bat the 6 out of there and leave it tough again.
The two ball cluster on Ochoa's side rail is effectively shutting down that whole side of his table. I might roll whitey off the side of the 15, and try to either freeze it on the head rail, or nudge it behind the 3 ball, like this:
A slightly more difficult move would be to use high center CB, and shoot the 4 into the 5, knocking them away, and rolling the CB up towards the corner pocket, like this:
Of the two, the first shot is easier to execute, and also has the advantage of opening up two balls on Ochoa's side. ~Doc
The two ball cluster on Ochoa's side rail is effectively shutting down that whole side of his table. I might roll whitey off the side of the 15, and try to either freeze it on the head rail, or nudge it behind the 3 ball, like this:
A slightly more difficult move would be to use high center CB, and shoot the 4 into the 5, knocking them away, and rolling the CB up towards the corner pocket, like this:
Of the two, the first shot is easier to execute, and also has the advantage of opening up two balls on Ochoa's side. ~Doc
The second shot of Doc's is what I like but I called it the "7" into the 2. Could be the 4 into the 2 as I see it now.
lll
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doc i think in your second shot its the 7/2 not 4/5
but your pic explains it clearly
Tom Wirth
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I've never watched Ochoa play One Pocket but I can't imagine him coming up with anything better than one of the many ideas which have come out of this thread. Who knows, he might just take a flyer at the six and try to get shape on something. He's up s..ts creek here and he should know it.
Tom
Tom
NH Steve
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Could he not also just bunt off the side of the 9-ball over to the side rail? Doesn't accomplish much but... it might "buy time"
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petie
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If I'm Frost and he does this to me, I bank the 2 with a little draw left and leave whitie where it is now but it will likely be my shot.
lll
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I'd probably be looking hard at akrick's shot. However, a friend of mine showed me that he can jam the one ball hard into the facing of scott's pocket with low right english. If struck correctly the one ball will rattle and go back to ochoa's hole. At least it get's the one away from scott's corner.
My pal actually shot it on scott at tunica.
My pal actually shot it on scott at tunica.
Tom Wirth
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This is a shot that Efren shoots very well. The shot doesn't have to be hit hard. The shot is played by driving the ball into the bottom rail just enough so that it's rebound brings it into the point on the pocket. The cue ball escapes along the side rail while the one ball travels back toward his own pocket. Not a bad choice if he knows the shot but with those two balls along the end rail this shot has little margin for error and becomes very dangerous. If Ochoa clips one of them he can sell out easy cross banks and the game. Still......
Tom
And Larry,
To answer your question: Yes, a little.
Bankin Ben
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It almost looks as though the 4-15 combination might be dead. If in fact it is give it a go and you can also get safe up table on the end rail if you happen to miss the bank.