You'll Be Up Here Yet

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Dennis, I think you mentioned over 50 players which only 35 of them are on my beat list. Maybe before I go i'll add a few more to the list due to a failing memory;) In all fairness the 35 that are on my beat list, well i'm on all 35 of their beat list as well.:eek:

You have a way with your wording that few do. Thanks for bringing us back, even though it was only for the briefest of time.

Billy I.
 

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Thanks for bringing us back, even though it was only for the briefest of time.

Billy I.
Bill,

Don't be including yourself along with them thar fellers just yet, I think you still have a little time left here:) .

I'm happy that some of you old-timers that knew many of these guys liked it. That means a lot to me.

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I thought maybe I'd put this back on the first page for newer members and those who hadn't seen it yet. Mighty egotistical on my part but I wrote it for everybody here.

Dennis
 

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Here's something I've been working on, off & on for a couple of years. I hope you enjoy it.

.................You'll Be Up Here Yet.................

It was the night after Derby and all alone in the room
Just one shadow was moving, an old man with a broom
The door creaked open and others came in
Cornbread & Breit, Eddie Taylor and then

Camp & Kieckhefer, no need to be first
Straight from Grand Rapids the great Harold Worst
Childress, de Oro & Fats were there too
Mexican Johnny, Rags & Johnny McCue

The door stayed open as they all filed through
Layton, Lingo & Mizerak too
Too many to count, so fast they came in
The old man was bewildered to see them again

Some asked his name, he said Last Pocket Joe
They told him "we'll be here one night then we'll pack up and go"
For the last nine days they've held D.C.C.
This one is ours, just sit back and see

See what happens when the greatest get up a stake
Watch Bugs bank out, he'll make no mistakes
Mosconi & Greenleaf, 150's and out
N.Y. Blackie "slip-stroking", that's what it's about

Watch Edgar play Poochie till deep in the night
Shakin' & Bakin' till he gets it right
Salami will stake him for something to do
While Waterdog's nodding, he'll wake up at two

Yes they'll all come here from some faraway place
Taberski, Rudolph & there's Babyface
Schaefer & Hoppe will be here at nine
Matching up for the title at 18.1 balkline

Spaeth & Eliot and Romburg too
Will be playing some banks till at least 1:00 or 2:00
McCue & Bugs may also join in
If Blood shows up it could go till 10:00

Lassiter, James Evans & Heisler are here
Just awaiting their chance, they've shown no fear
St.Jean & Ponzi, Andrews both
Are in deep conversation with big Hubert Cokes

Strawberry & Clem just got off of the train
Followed closely by Lauri and of course Irving Crane
Ervolino, Cochran & Pittsburgh John
Are up at the counter to see which table they're on

Boston Shorty, Sang Lee and St. Louis Lou
Speak with Jim Caras till there's something to do
They know that it's coming they know that it's soon
It's just once a year they take over this room

All that they ask for their travel and sweat
Is to let them stick around, let them play a set

Let Fatty play Camp & match up for a car
Let Taylor & Bugs bank out to the stars
Let Cornbread play Horseface, they play 10-8
They'll play all night, they really can't wait

Let Luther play Boom Boom, 9-ball all night
We'll finally see which one gets it right
Let Lori play men who are just too afraid
To beat on a woman like others they've played

Mosconi & Greenleaf will be put to the test
Finally they'll settle which one was the best
They'll all play all night & through the next day
None will get tired, they came here to play

They'll all leave a message when it comes time to leave
Just enjoy us & love us and always believe
We're always there in your memories and dreams
Helping to guide you as tough as it seems

So go on and play and when you run out
Remember we're watching, we'll stand and we'll shout
Though you will not hear us you'll know we are there
Though you will not see us you'll know that we care

So don't feel bad & don't feel sad
We know you never will forget
Just think of us from time to time
For you'll be up here yet
To Everybody,

I wrote this with the idea in mind that it would be an evolving poem, that is to say that it can be edited and alterred to add players in the future.

Unfortunately, it will happen for certain as we've already seen in the last couple of days.

I ask that any of you who would like someone included in the rewrite to post the name or PM me the name of the player. I will keep track of them.

I will not rewrite it until the next DCC so you have plenty of time.

Thank you.

Dennis
 

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To Everybody,

I wrote this with the idea in mind that it would be an evolving poem, that is to say that it can be edited and alterred to add players in the future.

Unfortunately, it will happen for certain as we've already seen in the last couple of days.

I ask that any of you who would like someone included in the rewrite to post the name or PM me the name of the player. I will keep track of them.

I will not rewrite it until the next DCC so you have plenty of time.

Thank you.

Dennis
I believe Clem is still living -- but the most amazing thing is that his mother might still be too! Last I knew, she was about the oldest person in Ohio -- close to 110 :eek:

Really nice job with this Dennis -- I didn't mean to pick on the one possibly alive...
 

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I believe Clem is still living -- but the most amazing thing is that his mother might still be too! Last I knew, she was about the oldest person in Ohio -- close to 110 :eek:

Really nice job with this Dennis -- I didn't mean to pick on the one possibly alive...
Steve,

I really don't why I put him in there. Maybe I just assumed, I really don't know. My mind was cloudy at the time, as you know.

He's there now so either way he's in it:) . I'm a bonehead for it though. I also wasn't sure about Mexican Johnny when I wrote it but I put him in anyway.

My bad for including anyone who shouldn't have been in it. I'm sorry for that.

Dennis
 

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Steve,

I really don't why I put him in there. Maybe I just assumed, I really don't know. My mind was cloudy at the time, as you know.

He's there now so either way he's in it:) . I'm a bonehead for it though. I also wasn't sure about Mexican Johnny when I wrote it but I put him in anyway.

My bad for including anyone who shouldn't have been in it. I'm sorry for that.

Dennis
He'll qualify eventually, but if he got his mother's genes he might outlive us all!!
 

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NH Steve said:
I believe Clem is still living -- but the most amazing thing is that his mother might still be too! Last I knew, she was about the oldest person in Ohio -- close to 110 :eek:

Really nice job with this Dennis -- I didn't mean to pick on the one possibly alive...[/QUOTE

You need to get all the old players in the hall off fame before its too late.

They belong thier so give them back something they desirve before its too late.

If you dont and all the old people from this generation. Die. Then thier will be nobody left too put them in the hall off fame. Because nobody knowes them.

And its not wright. I am talking like I am the hall off fame Rrptrsenative.

If youi waite and it does not get done it will not happen once were gone. And I like thier company. And they desirve to be thier like any off us that are in thier.

Todays players are ok they will all make it that should be thier. But what about the old timers that atr gone nobody is going too put them in thier but you..

And I say its your responsability to get it done. You are the boss and its your site. And you choose to do this.

Think about what I am saying. Its now or never. Why leave them out because they are old or people realy dont no them.Its not wright and its not fair. If the are hall off fame calaber players they need too be in thier.

Before they are forgotten completly. And they are not her so thier is nothing they can do to make it happen.

And I think it would be fair to put them in the hall off fame. Nobody will speck up for them if they didnt no them. But we all no if the desirve to be in the hall off fame it needs too happen.

Voting is great but who is going to vote for some one they dont no or never seen them play. Nobody. And why shut them out because people didnt no them.

I dont no a lot off presidents but thier still all in thier. Its up to people who new these players and how good they were. Not because nobody new them. I hope this isnt a popularity contest.

Let people like Gtady SJD John Henderson. Freddy Billy Fousco Squarral Eddie Kelly Ronnie Allen Trumand John Hemry Buddy Hall Allen Hopkins. And all the old players and people who now..

Find out who the best players were in all the cities and them get them in the hall off fame. And uts not fair too vote too get them in the hall off fame.

Because nobody will vote for someone they dont no. And when these people I mentioned thier wont be nobody left too talk about these people.

And these players will never get mentioned or the credit they deserve.

THis has to be done now too catch up. If not it will be too late. And If they desirve too be in the hall off fame. Then but them in thier.Because they desirve it.

Make exceptions for these great players that desirve too be in thier.

And dont penalize them because off when they played and people who new them are gone . Givevthem what they desirve.

Thier mames desirve too be thier because they were theb greatest in thier time. Dont penalize them or forget about them. Becaue off when they played and nobody. Remembers them.

And we all have the same thing that we will be remembered by. Is our NAME. And they had names too.

And today is different you have records and DVD and magaziens TV Stream line CDS todays players will be ok.Because you can read and learn all about them.

But the players I am talking about all they have is thier name. And not even a picture off them holding a cue stick. Dont they desive thier recignition and be remembered because how great and skillfull they played the game.

I can only say one thing if it does not get done before we are gone. THe door will dhut and thier memories wull be less then ashes. I said my peace.
 

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Let people like Gtady SJD John Henderson. Freddy Billy Fousco Squarral Eddie Kelly Ronnie Allen Trumand John Hemry Buddy Hall Allen Hopkins.

Here's a short story about how good John Henry played.

At the Cozy Cue poolroom back in 86-87 the big game where the most money was bet was one-pocket on a snooker table. It was a tight table and didn't give up anything. You earned every ball you made. I played Red, Miami, Watson, Horseface and quite a few others on that table. I saw Grady, Jimmy Reid I believe, Pat White(Canadian snooker player) and other very good players play on that table.

One day (night) I was watching a game with John Henry, I think he was partnered with Fat Don. They may have been playing Teddy "The Greek", I'm not certain. John Henry got a shot and ran 7 balls. That was the only time I ever saw anybody run 7 balls on that tough table. He had to shoot balls in the center of the table too, they weren't just sitting by his pocket. He impressed the hell out of me when he did that on that table.

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Here's a short story about how good John Henry played.

At the Cozy Cue poolroom back in 86-87 the big game where the most money was bet was one-pocket on a snooker table. It was a tight table and didn't give up anything. You earned every ball you made. I played Red, Miami, Watson, Horseface and quite a few others on that table. I saw Grady, Jimmy Reid I believe, Pat White(Canadian snooker player) and other very good players play on that table.

One day (night) I was watching a game with John Henry, I think he was partnered with Fat Don. They may have been playing Teddy "The Greek", I'm not certain. John Henry got a shot and ran 7 balls. That was the only time I ever saw anybody run 7 balls on that tough table. He had to shoot balls in the center of the table too, they weren't just sitting by his pocket. He impressed the hell out of me when he did that on that table.

Dennis

I didnt no you new Joh henry. He new all the players and seen a lot off great players and his opinion is great.

And as far as talking he can give me a big spot. Him and Chicago Paul Would lalk forever.

Who the best player was and he new one pocket the best. But I give him a high rating in making games and noweing the best players.

He came from the south side off Chicago. And I think he owned the pool room were they played in Chicago. The color off Money.

I think akines ended up with it. And when I talket too him. He new more about me then I did . All the people I playedand were what year I couldnt belive every thing he new about me like he had my diary.

He would tell me the mnames off the people I played on the south side off Chicago and in his pool room.

And he was the guy that I was the kid that always beat Bugs.And he even said I played better then Bugs.

And that was not easy for him too say. Because he came from the south side off Chicago.

And Bugs was the best player and the whole south side thought that Bugs wad the besy player in the world.

And he said Bugs and I were the best players in the world. And that didnt help me getting games.

And John Henery too this day belives that Bugs was the better player. And we played about 25 tims. More than any other great players I can think off.

And I beat bugs almost all the time. Because my game was perfect for his. And John Henry thinks and still belives that all those times we played it was Buisness.

And especialy because off how good Friends Bugs and I were. And the respect Bugs showed me. And John Henry new Bugs had a over opowering personality. And everyone was scared too play him.

I loved playing him. But If you ever talk too John Henry. Ask him do you think when Artie and Bugs played that it was on the square?

And you can get two too 1 that he will say He thinks it was Buisnes. And a lot off people thought that.

Even when Gorge fells wrote a artical on me and Bugs he made it asume like it was buisness.. All I can say I no the truth and whatever someone says is meaningless. And I fee sorry for thier weak thinking.

But every player Feared Bugs way more then me. And the only reason I only played Bugs even one time.

Because it was the only way I could have stoped something from happining. And people would have gotten killed.

But I played even and I one ever game. And I told Bugs next time we play its 9 to 8 and he said ok.

And now it does not matter. But I didnt want to give out the same games and spot that Bugs gave out. Because I am betting my own money. And Bugs was always getting backt.

And Bugs new why I askt for the spot. And Bugs new if I gave out the same spot that he did. I would be finisht and nobody would have played me.

And Bugs would give out the nuts. Because if he lost he would always snap back for something. And if he won he could make a big score because people would keep playing because the have wat the best off the game.

But if a great player is playing his best game he can still win no matter what the spot id. Bit John Henry thought because Bugs and me were so close that something was going on.

And Bugs would always stick up for me. If thier was a problem. And Bugs new the right people and he was thier Mohamod Alie in pool. They idolized him. Because they way he banket and played one pocket.

Bugs was one great player and more than that we were real close friends. And he told me I love you like my brother.

And too me that said it all. And when people played him you could see they were intimadated by his attitude and the shots he would shoot nothing scared him.

Bugs and Taylor are the two greatest bankers off all times. And one pocket It would have been a thing off beauty too watch. They only played banks 2 and each player won once.

His Friend Jerry Hubbart asket Bugs How would Artie and this guy play. And Bugs told him that player couldnt cary my shoes.

But those are great memories. But John Henry is a good man and he Knowesa lot off the old time players.

I have too rell you this one Dennis only because you mentioned his name. I was in the rack with Harold DEnson.

I dont no if you no him or not. BUt any way Harold said go up too thay guy and ask him too play for 3 or 5 hundred a game he will play you and he doesnt no you.

I go up too Donne Williams I didnt no him from adam. So I said. Would you like to play a sociable game for a few dollaers.

And as soon as I said it the red light went on. And Donne williams started looking around the room looking too see hwo sent me too ask him too play.

Donnie williams never said a word too me. He took outb a long big knife And yelled out too harold Im going to cut you when I catch you I am going too cut you.

And Donnie williams was chasing Harold around the pool table.

And Donnie williams keepte yelling at Harold when I catch you Im going too cut you.

And Harold keepte saying Oh My God OH my God. And he keepte chasing Harold around the pool tablte.

But the people in the rack broke it up. And Donnie cooled down. And U told Harold nice guy you sent me too play.

But since you no Donnie williams you can realy appriciate the story. Because off what kind off person Donnie was and what he played. But I never had a duel momonte no matter were I was.

Did you no Istell and Smooth. Joe Swartch Little Jimmy Mike Mashall. Charly Basset Chicago Himie Micky Seleck I could give you 40 more names easy but that was then and this is now.

If you sver see paul Brusloff ask him why he wouldnt male any kind off game with me Im courius. I no it wasant because he thought I had the nuts. Because he can ask for a game werethier id no way I could win.

And He told he after I asket him to play or make a game he said. I wont play you no matter what game you give me. And he would make a game with anyone.

And he said If you need money for a room or food Ill give you what you want but I wont play you no matter waht. And her is the funniest thing about Paul and me.

Iwent to eat with Wolfe and Joe and a few more friends off Wolfies. To a steack House I dont remember the name off the place. Im sure you no. It was a real classy restaurant. I think it was Italian. Im not sure.

But thier was thisbeaitifull girl working in the chech room were you check you coat and hat. And I new by the way we talket that she would go out with me.

I didnt want to rush it. So I waited the next night I herd the story what happened. Paul Brussloff. Went in the same steack house and he askt the same girl for a date.

And she told him maybe some other time. And the next nibht Paul walket in again and told her I ghave a present for you out side. And she said what is it.

And Paul Boght her a brane new car and told her hir are the keys its youres. And he laid it down too strong for me and lockt her up. And Adfter I herd what Happened I just let it go. And for the finaly. He ended up marying her.

You can ask paul if that realy happened. And he will tell you the truth .He married the check room girl. But he never new I was looking to take her out.

Its amazing what can happeb in life. And she had everything a man could want. But paul won that game. If you ever tell him the story he would probably enjoy it.
 

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Artie,

I knew (very casually) Estelle from the Rack. I knew much better "Smooth" from the Rack. I spotted him the whole side one day playing one-pocket on a snooker-table with regular sized pool balls. Not a real good idea but I ain't no genius:) . I was around Paul Brusloff for a little while at the Rack and at Steve Lomakos place. I only played him one time.

One of these days I'll find the time to write down the story of how a good friend and I walked into the Rack one night right after Smooth & Cecil had a fistfight over something. I walked into (a very high) Smooth waving a .357 revolver around and demanding the freeze-up money from Ronnie Harmelin. Fortunately he knew us both and we were too stupid to turn around and walk out. Strange stories come from things like that.

I'll tell you how good John Henry played again. One of the last times I saw him he kept pestering me to play. I was hitting 'em real good but I wouldn't mess with John playing even. He kept bothering me but in a nice way. Finally I told him that I would play him even for $10 but if he won he had to stop talking to me. He thought about it for awhile and finally realized that $10 was all he could win so he decided to play me under those conditions.

He won the first game easily and I paid him and then I quit:) . It only cost me $10 to get him to leave me alone. He was quite puzzled when I quit but I reminded him of his vow to stop talking to me if he won and he left me alone after that:D .

Dennis
 

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Artie,

I knew (very casually) Estelle from the Rack. I knew much better "Smooth" from the Rack. I spotted him the whole side one day playing one-pocket on a snooker-table with regular sized pool balls. Not a real good idea but I ain't no genius:) . I was around Paul Brusloff for a little while at the Rack and at Steve Lomakos place. I only played him one time.

One of these days I'll find the time to write down the story of how a good friend and I walked into the Rack one night right after Smooth & Cecil had a fistfight over something. I walked into (a very high) Smooth waving a .357 revolver around and demanding the freeze-up money from Ronnie Harmelin. Fortunately he knew us both and we were too stupid to turn around and walk out. Strange stories come from things like that.

I'll tell you how good John Henry played again. One of the last times I saw him he kept pestering me to play. I was hitting 'em real good but I wouldn't mess with John playing even. He kept bothering me but in a nice way. Finally I told him that I would play him even for $10 but if he won he had to stop talking to me. He thought about it for awhile and finally realized that $10 was all he could win so he decided to play me under those conditions.

He won the first game easily and I paid him and then I quit:) . It only cost me $10 to get him to leave me alone. He was quite puzzled when I quit but I reminded him of his vow to stop talking to me if he won and he left me alone after that:D .

Dennis


I had Quite a few steer men because nobody new me but some off the players but none off the people in the bars new me, And I played like 4 people at I think 7 mile Cook was one off them.

But I never kepye track off the people I beat. Unless the guy had big money.

One off the bars smooth took me to I got some real good action. Nobody new me that was great.

And the bar was were a senator got killed. You sbould no that bar. And supper fly new like 10 good bar spots. Little Jimmy had some good bar spots.

I dont think Cieciel was the favorite with smooth. When it would come down to the finish line.

I could get whatever I wanted from Al Sherman. And I new Baldie pretty good too at the time.

I use to go and eat a lot with Al and Vincent too the Stage Delie too eat. They had good food for a delie.

The bar action was pretty good and I loved playing eight ball. I would rather play the champions eight ball then one pocket.

Thier is a lot too no playing eight ball especialy with the old rules. You had to no when too shoot and when not too shot. And how to run the balls was the biggest key.

Super Fly reminded me of Rattzo in the move I think it was the midnight cowboy.

But that donnie williams Realy wantet to cut Harold. And he keep chasing him around the table. French and I played tree coushion billiards.

And I flew up to DFetroite just too play him. Thier wasant much side action.

But he played and I won 3 games in a row. 2 thousand dollars a game. I probably shoudnt have even played him. But I did and thier wasant much Billiard action anyway.

We got some pretty good card action. And they bet it up pretty good. All I can say If nobody would have known me .

It would have been unbliveball Howe much money I could have won.

What I bout Ray THe Rat. He was a card player. A friend off mein beat him in the card Room.

Wolfe I think was the nicest guy too gamble with. But that was the best 10 dollars you ever lost.

And him and Chicago Paul were the bigest pool talkers I have seen in my life.

And niether one ever stopet. John Henry KNows all those old Players Baby face Rotation Slim And Who ever some off those old players were that are forgotten already.

And he new the old pool players in Chicago Like THe old Young Blood and Akins and Whoever the old players were before I started playing.

He would be one off the people I would recomend and ask eho some off the great old players were Like in Joe Procitas Time.

Did you no Harry Newman. Or Allen Hill. What made Detroite good was thier was big money thier. And If you new what to do you could get some.

But Guys Like Rosey and the big money people If you were not in the click you had no chance too play them . Lonesand REd Fox Loved Bugs. And I can show you how John Henry didnt think.

Because If was going too do Buissness I would have done it in Detroite Were we Could have won a couple Hundred thousand. But again people dont think.

And me and Bugs woyld play every were we would run into each other. But I was mever in Detroitewhen Bigs was thier. Thats amazing by itself.
 

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To Everybody,

I wrote this with the idea in mind that it would be an evolving poem, that is to say that it can be edited and alterred to add players in the future.

Unfortunately, it will happen for certain as we've already seen in the last couple of days.

I ask that any of you who would like someone included in the rewrite to post the name or PM me the name of the player. I will keep track of them.

I will not rewrite it until the next DCC so you have plenty of time.

Thank you.

Dennis
Seven months to go till the next D.C.C.. I also figured that the newbies might like this and my huge ego never tires of hearing how much people like it:D .

Dennis
 

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To Everybody,

I wrote this with the idea in mind that it would be an evolving poem, that is to say that it can be edited and alterred to add players in the future.

Unfortunately, it will happen for certain as we've already seen in the last couple of days.

I ask that any of you who would like someone included in the rewrite to post the name or PM me the name of the player. I will keep track of them.

I will not rewrite it until the next DCC so you have plenty of time.

Thank you.

Dennis

I've been thinking about this for almost a year now and I've reached the conclusion that I cannot make it any better by adding to it, only worse. I will not add to it or rewrite it even though I'd like to change a couple of things in it.

Dennis
 

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I've been thinking about this for almost a year now and I've reached the conclusion that I cannot make it any better by adding to it, only worse. I will not add to it or rewrite it even though I'd like to change a couple of things in it.

Hello..."Earth to Dennis, Earth to Dennis"..Can you hear us now ?.....You are drifting into Artie-ism, by quoting your own
stupid posts..So sad..;) :D


Dennis

...Thank Gawd..I totally agree...Once was enough..:p

PS..I will be wagering all 3 bottles I owe you, on the next MNF game..(or is it 2 bottles ?)..:cool:
 
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