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One pocket Smitty

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Both need one. You have pocket A. Your shot. What kind of safe do you play. Both balls are frozen to the rails.---Smitty[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@4AVeM4BTBM3CMwJ3DPaJ4EBEj3FFeM3GHyK4HEoK3IUwK4JQHK4KKcM4LHiN3MKcL3NSLK4ONVL1PBli4QdGv@[/CUETABLE]
 

bernie p

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One pocket Smitty said:
Both need one. You have pocket A. Your shot. What kind of safe do you play. Both balls are frozen to the rails.---Smitty[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@4AVeM4BTBM3CMwJ3DPaJ4EBEj3FFeM3GHyK4HEoK3IUwK4JQHK4KKcM4LHiN3MKcL3NSLK4ONVL1PBli4QdGv@[/CUETABLE]


Smitty,

It looks like the shooter (Pocket A) is in a tough spot.

I believe it would make sense in this instance to consider taking a foul in place of a very likely sell out.

I would roll whitey approx 1 1/2 diamonds north of where it is now on the endrail.

Even though I now need both balls I think my percentages would be improved verses shooting the shot as shown.

If my opponent chooses to simply foul back at me then I still feel I have many more options.

What do you think?

Thanks.

Bernie.
 

Cowboy Dennis

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Safe???? You're kidding right???????? This layout is not even a problem if you hit it good.

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Skin

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Dpending on how confident I am hitting 'em off the rail that day, I think this is what I'd do. Leave the ob right in front of my side hole.

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One pocket Smitty

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That is close to what I did Skin. I tried to leave it by the side pocket but miss it a little. Still ended up winning the game after a couple of more innings. Its a tough place to be, unless you have the skills of Dennis. I'm not shooting that shot.---Smitty
 

lll

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bernie p said:
Smitty,

It looks like the shooter (Pocket A) is in a tough spot.

I believe it would make sense in this instance to consider taking a foul in place of a very likely sell out.

I would roll whitey approx 1 1/2 diamonds north of where it is now on the endrail.

Even though I now need both balls I think my percentages would be improved verses shooting the shot as shown.

If my opponent chooses to simply foul back at me then I still feel I have many more options.

What do you think?

Thanks.

Bernie.
if i understand you correctly this is what you would do and this what might happen. follow the pages
 

lll

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One pocket Smitty said:
Both need one. You have pocket A. Your shot. What kind of safe do you play. Both balls are frozen to the rails.---Smitty[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@4AVeM4BTBM3CMwJ3DPaJ4EBEj3FFeM3GHyK4HEoK3IUwK4JQHK4KKcM4LHiN3MKcL3NSLK4ONVL1PBli4QdGv@[/CUETABLE]


this is pretty weak ill admit (but what do i know?) but lets rearrange the balls and keep playing . thats my thought . teach me please.
 

lll

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lll said:
this is pretty weak ill admit (but what do i know?) but lets rearrange the balls and keep playing . thats my thought . teach me please.
 

NH Steve

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I think I would bank the ball straight back up my side of the table. If I felt comfortable, I would put a bit of inside english on the shot, which holds the cue ball a lot closer to the end rail. If the cue ball was off the rail enough to hit mor confidently then I would definitely use inside high english. But froze to the rail I think I would back off the side aspect, but still high roll the cue. I wouldn't want to soft roll this -- that would invite suicide. I would be aiming for a "half-ball" hit.

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There is a whole nother option available too, which works sometimes when the above does not work. That is, to bank the ball three rails toward the side pocket on your own side, letting the cue ball go over and back for a decent safety. By hitting the ball harder, you gain a little accuracy, and the extra top spin action keeps the cue ball much closer to the bottom rail. It looks like this, and is worth practicing a bit in your free time to get the feel and gain confidence. Watcha think, Dick, would you get up out of the electric chair for this?

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