lll
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efren 3 balls scott 2 balls
efrens shot
efrens shot
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One Pocket Ghost
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Banks
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Bank the 9 up along Scott's rail past the side pocket?
androd
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Saw the dark ball in and draw into the kiss. 
Rod.
Rod.
lll
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im going to fast foward this thread and put my cards on the table and tell you what i was thinking and what happened
then you can all critique my ideas and teach me
with all the balls in my uptable corner i want to keep scott trying to create some thing
so if the 8 isnt an easy shot im shooting the stripe kick ing it from behind it to the long rail and towards all the other balls in the uptable corner pocket on my side
the 8 wasnt an easy shot because efren decided to z bank it and draw the ball over to scotts long rain so as not to leave a shot on the 13
but he now put 2 balls in play ??
bear with me as post the diagrams then you all can give your opinions
efrens shot
then you can all critique my ideas and teach me
with all the balls in my uptable corner i want to keep scott trying to create some thing
so if the 8 isnt an easy shot im shooting the stripe kick ing it from behind it to the long rail and towards all the other balls in the uptable corner pocket on my side
the 8 wasnt an easy shot because efren decided to z bank it and draw the ball over to scotts long rain so as not to leave a shot on the 13
but he now put 2 balls in play ??
bear with me as post the diagrams then you all can give your opinions
efrens shot
lll
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so heres how he left it and scotts reply
lll
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now its efrens shot
lll
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ok ive said my peace
your thoughts??
your thoughts??
It's not so much Effrin put another ball in play.
It's the way he chose to execute the Z bank.
I would have drawn the cue ball into the pile of balls on the end rail. With this approach he could have put the ball much closer to his pocket and left Scott either over balls or in the balls.
Bill Stroud
It's the way he chose to execute the Z bank.
I would have drawn the cue ball into the pile of balls on the end rail. With this approach he could have put the ball much closer to his pocket and left Scott either over balls or in the balls.
Bill Stroud
lll
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but why leave that ball near scotts pocket when the z bank isnt a gimmee??
Cowboy Dennis
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That 2-railer is very speed-sensitive and it's not an easy shot to judge on a strange table. It's difficult enough to get close to your hole on a familiar table when shooting with the speed to draw the rock back to the siderail. The reverse off the 2nd rail makes it tough to judge.
Dennis
lll
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dennis would you have just knocked the stripe away??
One Pocket Ghost
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Yeah, I'm surprised he didn't just cut the ball in like you said Rod....Efren will probably make that cut shot about 9 out of 10 times - and even if he misses the cut, most likely is Scott will only get one ball - or Scott could even miss his long-distance cut shot, if Efren's cueball happens to leave Scott jacked or semi-jacked over one of those balls down there.
- Ghost
Cowboy Dennis
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Cowboy Dennis
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I'm guessing that the rock would've hit the stripe after contact and maybe came downtable for a shot at Scotts pocket if Efren missed the 8.
One Pocket Ghost
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Looks to me like the cueball is hitting the striped ball full...and ah, excuse me, but I don't think Efren's pocket speed would be off enough for the cueball to bounce back up almost a diamond, to where your arrows have indicated it would have...
...I know it wouldn't be ending up there if I was shooting it either...- Ghost
wincardona
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Bill, if you notice the action on the cue ball after the z bank was executed than you must agree that positioning the cue ball into the balls on the end rail was not possible. You either play the bank like he did, or look else where. Reyes just hit the bank bad, it really wasn't a bad shot. It looks to me that if the bank would of been hit accurately than the cue ball (if drawn) would be tracking toward the corner pocket, he over compensated and guarded against the scratch.
Nurse Bill
lll
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so no one likes back kicking the stripe??
why??
why??
petie
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Be in the present. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. What does Efren do now besides assume the position?
schitzngigglz
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The first shot I saw was three railing the strip by Scott's pocket. I am new to one pocket and noticed that no one else suggested that. Why not? It looks like a free shot to me.
Rick
Rick