Artie Bodendorfer said:
Let me tell you something only fool talk about people the dont no and you dont no me and the people who talk about me dont no me and the people who no me arent going to talk about me.Because the people who new me will all bet on me and want to be in with me. And I controld 80% of the action whatever pool room I ever hung out. And I controled all the action in Las Vegas sports books and I beat evey sports book in las Vegas and the book makers in Califoria were scared to death to take my action. Even when I quite doing what I was doing. And I beat a thousand people because nobody new me. And even in Las Vegas the didnt no me the only herd my name. And I have been in good action my whole life. And not just one game pool. And I was with the sharpest hustlers. Not just some good players. And you can talk all you want because thats what fools do talk about people the dont no. And in case you dont think I could play when I played. I could have beaten any one pocket player around 6 games ahead. And If you dont think people were scared to play me ask Paul Bruceloff he saiod I will give you mony if you need some I will back you and I will take you tpo eat. But I wont gamble with you at nothing. And he said dont ask me to play nothing. And John Henry and paul jones use to say that kid playes better then bugs. And the said it doesnt matter what spot he gives you he never loses. And when Marvine came to North Shore he asked me for 9 to 7 and Buddy Hall wanted 8 to 6 and Allen Hopkins wouldnt play in his prime and these are all great players not just good players and their was plenty of money up at noth shore.And if the played 6 games ahead the wouldnt have won even though the belived the could win. And if you had to make games behind Bugs and people saying that I played better then Bugs. I guess you would have liked it. But I was in action every day with sports pool cards and whatever their was action in. And again I controled 80% of the action. And if you dont belive what I am saying then put up some money and I will prove it to you. And Marvin cant verifie it because he is no longer around but Buddy Hall can and Allen can if the want to. I cant help it that ypou cant understand what I am talking about. The only way you can no is if you no as much as I do about One Pocket. But thats imposable. And I am not woffing at you to play. BUt put up your 30 thousand dollares and will end all the conversation. And nobody has taken the bet yet WHY WHY WHY. Do you want the bet? Or are you just some more talk. THe bet is for you and anyone who wants it. Does that sound like BUll shit. Take the bet and win the money and that will be it. And I am not a made up caracter that Freddy mad up. Im for real and the things I did are real and the people I played are real. NOt some msde up nonsense. I dont no who you are and dont care because I no you are a fool because only a fool would talk about someone the dont no. You should have asked Bugs who was the best player in the woprld. Anmd he would have told you. That I was the only guy he couldnt beat. And I can verifie that with one of Bugs backers and BUgs was his Hero. Because he was the one that asked Bugs . And he even asked Bugs if he had two hundred dollares who would he play with his own money Efrin or me And Bugs told him I wouldnt play Artie with my own money no matter what. He said He never one with a backer why would he play me with his own money. And I played Bugs about 25 times. And we always played each other because he new I would always play. And the only way we wouldnt play is if he couldnt get a backer. And I bet my own money 90% of the time. And For all you Fools I beat BUgs Even. And I told him after I beat him even. Thjat I want my 9 to 8 back because I didnt want to be giving bigger spots out then hiomgetting backed. And he said ok. And me and Bugs were closer then you and your brother. And I never said no to him when he asked me for the bite. And I never in my life asked him for money or my bite money back. And on his last birthday. I sent Bugs 3 birthday cards and he saI WHY DID YOU DO THAT and I said thats for all the birthdays I missed. And we played some of the greatest sessions in life. And nobody was closer to Bugs ten me at the end of his Journy. And he even got his daughters Cell phone so he could call me every day because he couldnt call out on the hopital phone. And he said he loves me like his own brother. And BUgs was a Champion. And we were the toughest combination in the world to beat. And thats my end of it and you can critisize and say what you want. I sugjest you take the chalange or get someone to take the chalange. And Let the whole world see and no the truth. And every one will learn and no how to play the gam,e correctly. Or keep talking and saying nigative lies and nothing will change. Or take the bet and find out the truth. Because you are clueless and you dont have a clue what real one pocket is about or how to play it. Go back to sdand box maybe you can talk yourself into learnind how the game is played. And all your Ignorance and stupeity will come out and you will wake up and learn howe to play real one pocket. Unless you arent interested in learning the truth. And I no everyone is sceptical. This is a one pocket site dont you think you should no how to play onepocket correctly? Or you can keep talking and making accusations and coments. Get the truth out dont just say things you have no clue about especialy if you DONT NO AND YOU DONT NO THE PERSON. I dont say anything about you because I dont no you. And I did say you are a fool maybe that will wake you up and think before you say something or write about someone YOU DONT NO. Do you want the bet or are you going to comment and say thats all bullshit and duck the truth or be a man and take the bet. WE are responsable for what we right. And hustling to me was not a game it was my survivale. And only the fittest survive.
Arthur,
1. There is a difference between being a great player and a loyal friend. My diatrade against you in the post you quoted never once mentioned your skill or lack there of as a player. It did state the fact that you owe a great deal to Fred for pumping you up, writing about you, bragging about you, etc so that the end result was you were inducted into the HOF. Do you really believe you were destined to be enshrined there without Freddy's influence, help and assistance???
2. Speaking of your skill as a player....could you list your major tournament wins for those of us who don't know of any? I can name the ones that Ronnie Allen, Efren Reyes, Grady Mathews, Shannon Daulton, Cliff Joyner, Ed Kelly, Eddie Taylor, Larry Johnson, Scott Frost, Danny DiLiberto, Nick Varner, Steve Cook, Johnny Ervolino, Jim Rempe, Cecil Tugwell, Chris McDonald, Harold Worst, Marshall Carpenter, Mike Sigel, Buddy Hall and Jose Parica won.
The only reason I'm pointing that out is because in your latest post, as best as I can tell, you pretty much proclaimed yourself to be the very best one pocket player ever, at least for a period in time. Better than the group I menetioned? I realize that a few GREAT players like Bugs, Jack Cooney, Billy Incardona, San Jose Dick and a few others played mostly money matches and eschewed the tournaments. But the difference between them and you is I don't recall any of them boasting so much about how they were so great and only they knew the secret to real one pocket. You stand alone there.
It's nice to have pride in your accomplishments, and you were most certainly a force in 1P. But you were not the best that ever played the game. And do you really believe that of the aforementioned group of great players, only YOU know the "correct" way to play the game???
3. You want me to play you for $30,000.00? I don't have an extra $300 let alone thousands just laying around. And anyway, I'm only a shortstop. I'm no champion of Chicago. You would beat me bad Arthur. But to help you out a little, why don't you contact the guys at T.A.R. and ask them to set up a match between you and Efren for 30G? Or Shannon or Cliff. Heck, Allen Hopkins would probably take you up on that match.
4. I have a very hard time believing that Bugs was afraid to play you 1p. To me, saying something like that is another way of saying he was a coward, which we all know he was NOT. And even if that were true, why do you feel the need to post that? To put your friend Bugs down? To degrade his memory? Or to once again puff yourself up as being the greatest to ever chalk a cue? Let me guess...I'm a fool for even thinking you NEEDED chalk!
5. I have nothing against you personally, as you've never done anything wrong or bad to me. Even if you did, I don't hold grudges anyway. But I do consider how you treated Freddy here on a public forum to be very tacky, considering how helpful he's been in giving you the great boost that he did.
That's the sole reason why I responded to your posts. Or did you just want to write anything your heart desired and then have nobody respond?
PS- Accu-Stats is in the process of arranging challenge matches for taping and then selling. If T.A.R. turns you down, maybe you could give them a call.
I'm pretty sure they have Efren's telephone number.