Billy vs billy

lll · Dec 17, 2011

this from Bill Incardona one pocket instructional video which can be bought on freddys website
we have some newbies and lurkers
thought when the shot and the reason is presented they would learn something and buy the dvd
http://bankingwiththebeard.com/?p=294
direct link but check out the whole site
nice xmas gift for yourself or suggest to those who dont know what to get you
of course freddys banking books and dvds should also be on your santas list
this was a non paid self prompted plug for these guys
while im plugging lets go buy some of ghosts shirts for xmas presents also
ghost i couldnt find your link:sorry
(post it its not hijacking

or lennys dvds and scotts dvds
if you look on top you will see scotts dvds and 1p dvds
http://www.ontherailtv.com/
i got a dvd for xmas of ronnie allen vs artie b. (match of the century)
all the commentary was in german

i could understand the moves though

this is an inside joke
ignore the above few lines:sorry
ok
heres the layout
what would you do???

fred bentivegna · Dec 17, 2011

I got one

I got one

lll said:
this from Bill Incardona one pocket instructional video which can be bought on freddys website
we have some newbies and lurkers
thought when the shot and the reason is presented they would learn something and buy the dvd
http://bankingwiththebeard.com/?p=294
direct link but check out the whole site
nice xmas gift for yourself or suggest to those who dont know what to get you
of course freddys banking books and dvds should also be on your santas list
this was a non paid self prompted plug for these guys
while im plugging lets go buy some of ghosts shirts for xmas presents also
ghost i couldnt find your link:sorry
(post it its not hijacking
or lennys dvds and scotts dvds
http://www.ontherailtv.com/
i got a dvd for xmas of ronnie allen vs artie b. (match of the century)
all the commentary was in german
i could understand the moves though
this is an inside joke
ignore the above few lines:sorry
ok
heres the layout
what would you do???
View attachment 4797

View attachment 4798

I received that same dvd match and I burned it before I could get arrested. Of course I watched it first.

Beard

lll · Dec 17, 2011

fred bentivegna said:
I received that same dvd match and I burned it before I could get arrested. Of course I watched it first.

Beard

freddy how did like the moves presented:lol

lll · Dec 17, 2011

hijacking a thread before it even started
when there cant be too many people that know what we are talking about must be a first:heh
p.s. i thought artie shot very well:sorry

lll · Dec 17, 2011

lll said:
this from Bill Incardona one pocket instructional video which can be bought on freddys website
we have some newbies and lurkers
thought when the shot and the reason is presented they would learn something and buy the dvd
http://bankingwiththebeard.com/?p=294
direct link but check out the whole site
nice xmas gift for yourself or suggest to those who dont know what to get you
of course freddys banking books and dvds should also be on your santas list
this was a non paid self prompted plug for these guys
while im plugging lets go buy some of ghosts shirts for xmas presents also
ghost i couldnt find your link
(post it its not hijacking)
or lennys dvds and scotts dvds
if you look on top you will see scotts dvds and 1p dvds
http://www.ontherailtv.com/
i got a dvd for xmas of ronnie allen vs artie b. (match of the century)
all the commentary was in german
i could understand the moves though
this is an inside joke
ignore the above few lines
ok
heres the layout
what would you do???
View attachment 4797

View attachment 4798

lets get back to serious business

who else got this dvd ???
i was told it was EXCLUSIVE only one copy

pms ok but you can post it here in this thread too

the perpertrator of the dvd should be EXPOSED{sic}

that it wasnt a one copy only
who it was can be protected

One Pocket Ghost · Dec 17, 2011

lll said:
heres the layout
what would you do???

Looks like the obvious shot, if the correct 13 carom angle is there...is to shoot at the middle of the 5/13 - 13 goes into the cluster above Billy's pocket opening them near the pocket, 5 goes 2 rails towards the pocket, and you slide the cueball over to hide behind the stack.

- Ghost

fred bentivegna · Dec 17, 2011

...jumped the table...

...jumped the table...

lll said:
hijacking a thread before it even started
when there cant be too many people that know what we are talking about must be a first:heh
p.s. i thought artie shot very well:sorry

...and the ball hit her, I mean him, right in the mouth.

Beard

lll · Dec 17, 2011

One Pocket Ghost said:
Looks like the obvious shot, if the correct 13 carom angle is there...is to shoot at the middle of the 5/13 - 13 goes into the cluster above Billy's pocket opening them near the pocket, 5 goes 2 rails towards the pocket, and you slide the cueball over to hide behind the stack.

- Ghost

the 13 also goes to the pocket
why not play to make it??
just askin

fred bentivegna · Dec 17, 2011

Actually,,

Actually,,

lll said:
the 13 also goes to the pocket
why not play to make it??
just askin

...if it goes there is probably nothing wrong with shooting to make it.

beard

androd · Dec 17, 2011

coupla questions.
Who's playing.
Which pocket is who's.
Who's shot is it.
What the point of this thread. I guess a few jokes?

One Pocket Ghost · Dec 17, 2011

lll said:
the 13 also goes to the pocket
why not play to make it??
just askin

Cuz it looks to me like the 5ball is slightly blocking the 13 from going in the pocket...also, since you said this situation is from Billly's instructional video - I didn't think Billy would be displaying a shot situation where all you're supposed to know to do is shoot a ball straight in...

...

- Gh

st

lll · Dec 18, 2011

One Pocket Ghost said:
Cuz it looks to me like the 5ball is slightly blocking the 13 from going in the pocket...also, since you said this situation is from Billly's instructional video - I didn't think Billy would be displaying a shot situation where all you're supposed to know to do is shoot a ball straight in.....

- Ghst

androd said:
coupla questions.
Who's playing.
Which pocket is who's.
Who's shot is it.
What the point of this thread. I guess a few jokes?

billy is demonstrating a layout and the reasons for the the shot selected
his pocket is the lower right corner
its billys shot

the point of the thread was
i was bored
wanted to post something "fresh"
thought i give a plug to some longtime members to help christmas sales

and for the newbies show something they could learn

of course our astute,learned one pocket master ghost got it right

the idea was instead of shooting the 13 which billy said was a 50% chance of making it he was demonstrating the concept of buiding/ developing a stronger position
as ghost said shoot the 13 into the cluster to open them up
and the cue ball carom off the 5 and goes into the side rail and into the stack
final position

lll · Dec 18, 2011

for aspiring 1p players billys dvd is a good one
all the stocking stuffers mentioned above would be nice gifts to yourself or the pool player you know

ok its a new day
rod
ill try to find something a bit more challenging and more clearly presented

we can put this thread to rest

Dudley · Dec 18, 2011

When looking at this layout I would have a hard time not shooting the 5 straight in the hole. If you cut it well with good speed it is very safe leaving the cue ball near the line of balls towards the bottom of the stack. It is a little bit of a gamble but if it came out well you could run a bunch.

If the 9 ball on the bottom of the stack didn't go billy's shot is without a doubt the best option.

Dud

lll · Dec 18, 2011

dudley i agree for demonstration purposes the position of that line of balls
9/6/ 1 could have been positioned differently to not make your shot so enticing

he was trying to show the value of building position rather than just make a ball
remember billy is trying to demonstrate concepts not challenge experienced players with what would you do

Dudley · Dec 18, 2011

lll said:
dudley i agree for demonstration purposes the position of that line of balls
9/6/ 1 could have been positioned differently to not make your shot so enticing
he was trying to show the value of building position rather than just make a ball
remember billy is trying to demonstrate concepts not challenge experienced players with what would you do

Understood,

His shot situation was very well thought out and a very powerful shot that isn't seen very often.

I like the concept of playing shape off the carom to the side of the stack. Sending 2 balls towards your hole while ducking and breaking up some trouble is always a strong move in one pocket.

Dud

NH Steve · Dec 19, 2011

I would not have seen the shot that Billy played -- kissing the cue ball off both balls and then off the rail into the stack. I would have seen Ghost's shot

wincardona · Dec 20, 2011

NH Steve said:
I would not have seen the shot that Billy played -- kissing the cue ball off both balls and then off the rail into the stack. I would have seen Ghost's shot

Steve, the angle offered to play the combo bank and go to the side rail wasn't available, in fear of kissing the 5 ball, so I played off the 5 ball and pushed it toward the top of the stack. The cue ball would then take a natural course to the side rail and then into the stack. If the angle on the combination afforded me to hit the meat of the head ball then the 5 ball would of left quickly opening up a safe route for the cue ball to go to the side rail and then into the stack, but The way The Ghost saw the shot was understandable because it was a good shot, but didn't carry the angle to shoot it. At times you have to be at the table to feel the subtle difference needed for certain shots.

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