Unusuall position after the "break"

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I know some of you guys have sox older then me,have you ever been here after the break?
What is the % play? Guy miscued,coin marks his side. We play even.
 

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it's just a scratch. play it where it lies.... if the guy miscues on a one pocket break and misses the rack, raise the bet!
 

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Kick into the left side of the stack hard enough for the CB to carom uptable to the head rail.

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[EDIT: Changed "right side" to "left side". Doh!]
 
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i am ashamed for you guys. just kick into the long rail to the stack with a little draw. you will open about 5 or 6 balls for your hole and none for him and send the cue ball up table on your side near the hole.
if you go a little high sometimes you might even make a ball for your self.

the only downside is if you leave him a dead ball or the rare time one kicks out.

its about like him spotting you the break with ball in hand.
 

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Unusuall position after the "break"

Kick into the right side of the stack hard enough for the CB to carom uptable to the head rail.

pj
chgo



Yes I’ve been there, and this is what I would do and have done. I’m not sure where exactly you want to aim, maybe between 3rd and 4th ball...I haven’t practiced it...yet.


MM
 

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Try to kick into the low side of the 8 using 6:20 draw and medium speed... Favor the low side of the 8 and just above the 1 ball with this boring type draw stroke so the cb will burrow into the stack and open up several balls to your side leaving nothing...
 

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I know some of you guys have sox older then me,have you ever been here after the break?
What is the % play? Guy miscued,coin marks his side. We play even.

Try to kick into the low side of the 8 using 6:20 draw and medium speed... Favor the low side of the 8 and just above the 1 ball with this boring type draw stroke so the cb will burrow into the stack and open up several balls to your side leaving nothing...

i think you want to kick on the other side of the stack and aim at the 2/3
icbw
 

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I shot the12 just hard enough to get it off the rail and past center on my side. Center ball as a sliding punch shot . Cue ball slid over 4" off the rail,even with the 3 ball.14 and 1 came out a little..11 moved 3 diamonds towards side pocket. Opponent really had nothing. I kick often but didn't like burying whitey or glancing and going uptable.

None of you detectives noticed this is a reverse image? Damned if I know how that happened.
 

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what is a sliding punch shot. do you hit the ball with your knuckles or something while ice skating across the table.

where is Pat when we (I) need him?
 

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what is a sliding punch shot. do you hit the ball with your knuckles or something while ice skating across the table.

where is Pat when we (I) need him?


I hit it like a stun run thru,only I hit down on the cueball a little. I can hit harder but it bounces and loses some energy.
Since I fell and broke my ankle on the ice I will not be skating anywhere.
 

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what is a sliding punch shot. do you hit the ball with your knuckles or something while ice skating across the table.

where is Pat when we (I) need him?
I don't know what "sliding punch" means, but we can tell from where the balls ended up (as OneDog described) how it must have been hit: medium-slow speed, near center (depending on ball/cloth condition) for stun-runthrough.

As with all shots, it's fully defined by the angle/spot/speed (ASS). Nothing else matters to the CB.

pj
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I don't know what "sliding punch" means, but we can tell from where the balls ended up (as OneDog described) how it must have been hit: medium-slow speed, near center (depending on ball/cloth condition) for stun-runthrough.

As with all shots, it's fully defined by the angle/spot/speed (ASS). Nothing else matters to the CB.

pj
chgo

If the cueball is bouncing it does matter.
 

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you obviously hit your head on the ice when you fell. so please check with doctor larry or even doctor bill for advice on fixing your head.
if you asked me i would tell you to take two aspirin and masturbate. and then you will be fine.

good discussion you got going anyway my friend.
 

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One of those old sliding punch shots got me broke back in 69, or was it 73?
 

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I don't know what "sliding punch" means, but we can tell from where the balls ended up (as OneDog described) how it must have been hit: medium-slow speed, near center (depending on ball/cloth condition) for stun-runthrough.

As with all shots, it's fully defined by the angle/spot/speed (ASS). Nothing else matters to the CB.

pj
chgo

If the cueball is bouncing it does matter.
Definitely - I’m only talking about the stroke that made it bounce. Dfiferent strokes for different effects, like your sliding punch, can all be described as different combinations of those three ingredients.

That doesn’t mean it’s simple or unimpressive - you still have to know what the perfect mix is for the precise effect needed, and be able to deliver it to the cue ball perfectly on demand.

It’s remarkable and counterintuitive to me that everything that happens on the table emanates from those three elemental tip/CB variables (angle/spot/speed), and all our years of learning and practice are to master them.

pj
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i think you want to kick on the other side of the stack and aim at the 2/3
icbw

Oops...:confused: You are correct Larry...

Bottom side of the 2, using 6:35 on the cb.. medium speed..:)

And a sliding punch sounds like something a cage fighter or a hockey player might find useful also...
 

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I saw a break miscue, where whitey laid on the side he was supposed to glance off, he designated the left corner, but the cue ball came up a couple diamonds. Alcano edged the corner ball, hit the foot rail and came out a little two railer, and had a dumfounded look after it stopped rolling. he exposed the upper left (as your racking) head ball. It was amusing for a bit. Three of the great pinoys were upstairs the consensus was, scratch play it where it lies. nice, RA gets 9-8 outta the gate :).
 
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