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Old 01-11-2018, 09:13 AM
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Soft kick on the 1-ball for sure! Good reward and simple execution.
that's what i'd shoot. i wouldn't worry at all about my opponent crossing the 4ball because he's going to have to hit it pretty hard, frozen to rail and will likely leave an easy return at 'my' pocket. kick slowly into that 1ball with hopes of freezing on it.

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Old 01-11-2018, 09:15 AM
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I'm crossing the 3 to place the cueball at the top rail underneath the 2 ball.
daniel: there is no reason to give your opponent numerous shot options especially when you can one-rail roll-up on the 1ball.
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:22 AM
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Howdy All;

Which way ya kickin' at the 1? I see 2 ways to do that, off the top Left side rail which,
apparently, is the the choice de'jour or off the Right side rail?
Gotta ask.

hank
if you come off the right side rail you are hitting the 1 on the left which migh bump it into a makeable shot to his hole for him
if you are planning to go right side rail left side rail and go a little long you scratch
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Old 01-11-2018, 10:34 AM
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Hey Hank, glad to see you are picking people''s brains thats a great way to learn! Here is my take for you and hope it helps.

One thing you should notice before leaving the CB up table is that the 6 and 15 can both be cut and made in his hole unless you get the CB over to the left side of the table. Anything outside of that upper left hand quadrant puts you in a danger zone when your opponent gets to the table, he could make one of those balls and get quite a few, they all go in his hole.

So, knowing you have to have the CB over to the left, that eliminates the "kicking to the 3 ball" shot.

Now, to kick to that upper left quadrant you can go from the left or right.

From the right that 6 ball and 15 are both pretty big balls. It's going to be hard for you to kick into the 1 or to that area without hitting one of those balls. Hit one of those balls and you may lose quite a few from there. Unless you are purposely intending on taking a foul and you kick from the right to the long rail, then head rail to the right of the 1 and then play a speed that rests in that upper left area.

From the left there are 0 balls in your way. An intentional is ok but you do have a good chance to make a legal hit and drive the 1 to the short rail and snuggle up to it.

However, as pointed out later thinning the 4 would be better because you hide it from your opponent being able to play a safety off it.

Hope that made sense!
Yep that makes sense to me. However, ... there's always a however isn't there .

Even if the thinning on the 4 were successful there are still the 6/15 and the 7
that could also be used for the same Safety, yes/no ?

Thanks for thoughts and insights.

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Old 01-11-2018, 11:12 AM
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cincy_kid, Howdy;



Yep that makes sense to me. However, ... there's always a however isn't there .

Even if the thinning on the 4 were successful there are still the 6/15 and the 7
that could also be used for the same Safety, yes/no ?

Thanks for thoughts and insights.

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Old 01-11-2018, 11:37 AM
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Soft kick on the 1-ball for sure! Good reward and simple execution.

I don't see a way to bank the 3 without selling out a return shot on at least one of the 6, 15, 7, or 4. Unless I make the 3, of course, but even then the next shot won't be trivial.


I agree with all the above points!
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:27 PM
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cincy_kid, Howdy;



Yep that makes sense to me. However, ... there's always a however isn't there .

Even if the thinning on the 4 were successful there are still the 6/15 and the 7
that could also be used for the same Safety, yes/no ?

Thanks for thoughts and insights.

hank
True, but most players will want to remove or take out the ball that you have closest to your pocket. So although they may be able to come off the 6, 15 or 7 in a similar fashion, you will still be "protecting" that 4 ball which is the closest one to your hole and the one that you will have the best chance of pocketing if he should mess up.
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:25 PM
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androd, Howdy;







Ok, it may be "harder to do" but don't we learn more by accepting the challenge

of a harder shot? $'s wern't mentioned so why not attempt it or even kicking

into the 3 ball from the Right side?

Being curious and trying to learn here.

Thanks.



hank


Iíve only been playing a lot of OP for the last couple years, so I still have moments of trying to do too much. Best advice I could ever give you is to pay close attention to how difficult you choose to make things. Higher degree of difficulty naturally means you will mess up more. Itís mistakes that usually cost me games, NOT my opponent earning it. So the advice is the same that I try to tell myself: KISS=Keep It Simple, Stupid.

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Old 01-11-2018, 06:23 PM
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:28 PM
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True, but most players will want to remove or take out the ball that you have closest to your pocket. So although they may be able to come off the 6, 15 or 7 in a similar fashion, you will still be "protecting" that 4 ball which is the closest one to your hole and the one that you will have the best chance of pocketing if he should mess up.
Thanks for the insight, the extra info helps with understanding.

Thanks for taking the time to to help me learn this game.

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