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Old 02-17-2019, 12:00 AM
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:03 AM
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dat mitch aint no dummy.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:25 AM
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A couple of things;
I tried the one rail bank many times and never got a kiss, and was always able to hold the cue within one diamond of the head rail.

When doing the kick two rail bank it is not easy to make the cb stick right there, for the angle the cb is laying on is to sharp of an angle and it back cuts the 5 allowing the cb to come out away from the corner. So you have to change the angle by hitting short of your mark and by using a lot of right hand spin, this helps to hold the cb. And 'yes' the 5 comes off approx. the 3rd. diamond to go into Alex's hole.

Both shots are no givens, they take practice.

Thanks once again Larry! What's seems easy for these lifer's is not for me, so I work through these shots! I had no luck at all trying PJ's shot! My corner pocket points are not to sharp so this might of effected it. Whitey

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Old 02-17-2019, 02:05 AM
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dat mitch aint no dummy.
And, he obviously knows all the moves playing with one ball too...
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Old 02-17-2019, 07:39 AM
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dat mitch aint no dummy.
agree to both statements....
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:55 AM
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A couple of things;
I tried the one rail bank many times and never got a kiss, and was always able to hold the cue within one diamond of the head rail.

When doing the kick two rail bank it is not easy to make the cb stick right there, for the angle the cb is laying on is to sharp of an angle and it back cuts the 5 allowing the cb to come out away from the corner. So you have to change the angle by hitting short of your mark and by using a lot of right hand spin, this helps to hold the cb. And 'yes' the 5 comes off approx. the 3rd. diamond to go into Alex's hole.

Both shots are no givens, they take practice.

Thanks once again Larry! What's seems easy for these lifer's is not for me, so I work through these shots! I had no luck at all trying PJ's shot! My corner pocket points are not to sharp so this might of effected it. Whitey
Thanks for taking the shot to the table. After looking at the pic again I agree itís not close to a kiss. Iíve played plenty of players that would shoot the one railer but controlling the cue ball on a thin hit is not in the cards.

I tried to find that shot on the YouTube replay to see where Alex parked the cue ball.
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Old 02-17-2019, 11:10 AM
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Thanks for taking the shot to the table. After looking at the pic again I agree itís not close to a kiss. Iíve played plenty of players that would shoot the one railer but controlling the cue ball on a thin hit is not in the cards.

I tried to find that shot on the YouTube replay to see where Alex parked the cue ball.
Thanks, Pilot! I put the cb on a wider angle such as from the 5th diamond just past the side, and then the cb will stick by using center ball.

I tried to develop a kicking aiming formula as to where to contact the point on the rail, but was unsuccessful. As a starting point I drew a line from the left side of the 5 to the cushion then aimed backed from that approx. 3/8", and that worked well. When using right hand english just above center, I then aimed a little back from that, and it worked well in keeping the cb in that corner. Without having some kind of starting point I was totally lost as to where to contact the rail, for it does not look right for it seems you are aiming to deep past the 5 ball to contact it right, so developing a starting point really helped!

My banking % was low for making the ball, but % of keeping the cb by the head rail was very high when using center 1/2 tip left english. I either had a bad day of banking, or can not bank anymore, or it is just a hard bank. Probably not seeing the bank well, but it should be banked close to pocket speed to avoid leaving a return easy shot! Whitey
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Old 02-17-2019, 11:22 AM
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Jersey Red shot that kick well, as i remember it's much better if the OB is frozen or close to the short head rail.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:53 PM
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yes as rod said. as it stood too much room for error on your first try. any shot after multiple tries gets close but we are talking cold turkey at the table.
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