90 / 10 blues

cincy_kid · Jan 1, 2017

That was the best I could think of for a title but I wanted to see if any of you out there have gone through the same thing. I was able to get out and play a few real good sessions this weekend with someone I play even and for more than I usually play for, so I was for sure focused and trying to get the money.

I played so good. Came up with some real good shots, trapped him up, always got to the shot first, speed was great, banking good and even as a non ball runner, I ran a couple of 6's. So what's wrong with that, right?

Thing is, I did those things...90% of the time. The remaining 10% of the time where I made a bad shot or missed or made the wrong move or got unlucky, scratched, etc. Somehow those erased the 90% of the time I played good. Because although I feel I played the game as well as I possibly can at my skill level, I still lost the sessions when I had them in my grasp.

I would play so good and get down to needing 1 and he needs 3 and then I scratch and lose the game. So I guess I just need to make those errors at less critical times or less often? Because the way I see it, I am an amateur and I can't play my best all the time, I am not consistent like the pros are. So, if I am playing my best 90% of the time in a match, that seems hard to top. Yet if I lose by doing so, that can get quite discouraging...

Frustrated I gave away the cheese but happy that I feel overall I am playing better my last few times out.

Do you guys ever experience that?

youngstown · Jan 1, 2017

90 / 10 blues

Welcome to my world

youngstown · Jan 1, 2017

90 / 10 blues

You've got the one mistake blues

poolisboring · Jan 1, 2017

yea i think most if not all of us have been there....... there are so many factors to consider in one pocket and that makes it such a interesting event--risk vs reward, your tolerance for pain, how youre playing, conditions...... its fascinating...... compare that to 8 ball or 9 ball, where,sure, you have options but they are more cut and dried.......

Tylerbob · Jan 1, 2017

I am sure there are more qualified people than me to offer comment, but since none have yet, I will offer my two cents. When I lose sessions I think I should have won, I spend some time looking for a common theme. At various times I have experienced the following:

Start strong but fade after 3 or 4 hours. Sometimes this is lack of focus. Other times it is just plain fatigue. I am 70 years old, and my mind thinks I can hold up for 8-10 hours. When I am smart I set a designated end time. I hate to just walk off a winner without notice to my opponent. Sometimes that results in too long a session and I give back the cash.

Sometimes it is just pressure, especially if the bet is higher than my normal comfort zone. My mind starts spending the cash if I continue to win. Sometimes it is added pressure based on who is sweating the match or who my opponent is.

From what you described, there may be a weakness in your end game. There is in mine. I just get tired of bunting and send off a flier. NH Steve posted links to some end game situations that I think will help me.

That's at least 2 cents worth. Main point, don't feel like the only one. Happens to all of us.

jtompilot · Jan 1, 2017

cincy_kid said:
That was the best I could think of for a title but I wanted to see if any of you out there have gone through the same thing. I was able to get out and play a few real good sessions this weekend with someone I play even and for more than I usually play for, so I was for sure focused and trying to get the money.

I played so good. Came up with some real good shots, trapped him up, always got to the shot first, speed was great, banking good and even as a non ball runner, I ran a couple of 6's. So what's wrong with that, right?

Thing is, I did those things...90% of the time. The remaining 10% of the time where I made a bad shot or missed or made the wrong move or got unlucky, scratched, etc. Somehow those erased the 90% of the time I played good. Because although I feel I played the game as well as I possibly can at my skill level, I still lost the sessions when I had them in my grasp.

I would play so good and get down to needing 1 and he needs 3 and then I scratch and lose the game. So I guess I just need to make those errors at less critical times or less often? Because the way I see it, I am an amateur and I can't play my best all the time, I am not consistent like the pros are. So, if I am playing my best 90% of the time in a match, that seems hard to top. Yet if I lose by doing so, that can get quite discouraging...

Frustrated I gave away the cheese but happy that I feel overall I am playing better my last few times out.

Do you guys ever experience that?

Happens to me most of the time except when I played you. Then it was 60/40

LSJohn · Jan 1, 2017

cincy_kid said:
Thing is, I did those things...90% of the time. The remaining 10% of the time where I made a bad shot or missed or made the wrong move or got unlucky, scratched, etc. Somehow those erased the 90% of the time I played good.

Do you guys ever experience that?

You've just described my game... on my good days. :frus

sappo · Jan 1, 2017

cincy_kid said:
That was the best I could think of for a title but I wanted to see if any of you out there have gone through the same thing. I was able to get out and play a few real good sessions this weekend with someone I play even and for more than I usually play for, so I was for sure focused and trying to get the money.

I played so good. Came up with some real good shots, trapped him up, always got to the shot first, speed was great, banking good and even as a non ball runner, I ran a couple of 6's. So what's wrong with that, right?

Thing is, I did those things...90% of the time. The remaining 10% of the time where I made a bad shot or missed or made the wrong move or got unlucky, scratched, etc. Somehow those erased the 90% of the time I played good. Because although I feel I played the game as well as I possibly can at my skill level, I still lost the sessions when I had them in my grasp.

I would play so good and get down to needing 1 and he needs 3 and then I scratch and lose the game. So I guess I just need to make those errors at less critical times or less often? Because the way I see it, I am an amateur and I can't play my best all the time, I am not consistent like the pros are. So, if I am playing my best 90% of the time in a match, that seems hard to top. Yet if I lose by doing so, that can get quite discouraging...

Frustrated I gave away the cheese but happy that I feel overall I am playing better my last few times out.

Do you guys ever experience that?

a few years ago when i was playing everyday there were many times that i would come away feeling the 90/10 blues. i decided to bring a note pad and write down the shots/ situations that caused me to lose games. i kept this up for a few weeks and it became clear that i would make the same kind of errors day in and day out. from there i just concentrated on those things both while playing and while practicing. after a while when i got into certain game situations a red flag would go off and i would recognize that these were situations that had cost me in the past and i was then prepared to executed them properly. it made a difference for me.
i guess what I'm saying is if you know where your weaknesses are you can prepare for them in the future. keith

Billy Jackets · Jan 1, 2017

cincy_kid said:
That was the best I could think of for a title but I wanted to see if any of you out there have gone through the same thing. I was able to get out and play a few real good sessions this weekend with someone I play even and for more than I usually play for, so I was for sure focused and trying to get the money.

I played so good. Came up with some real good shots, trapped him up, always got to the shot first, speed was great, banking good and even as a non ball runner, I ran a couple of 6's. So what's wrong with that, right?

Thing is, I did those things...90% of the time. The remaining 10% of the time where I made a bad shot or missed or made the wrong move or got unlucky, scratched, etc. Somehow those erased the 90% of the time I played good. Because although I feel I played the game as well as I possibly can at my skill level, I still lost the sessions when I had them in my grasp.

I would play so good and get down to needing 1 and he needs 3 and then I scratch and lose the game. So I guess I just need to make those errors at less critical times or less often? Because the way I see it, I am an amateur and I can't play my best all the time, I am not consistent like the pros are. So, if I am playing my best 90% of the time in a match, that seems hard to top. Yet if I lose by doing so, that can get quite discouraging...

Frustrated I gave away the cheese but happy that I feel overall I am playing better my last few times out.

Do you guys ever experience that?

You are at a plateau, when you stop missing the shot,scratching or fouling in these scenarios, you will move up the skill ladder a couple of rungs.
The hard part is over, you have been shooting better shots ,moving better and thinking better , to get yourself into these situations, now you just have to take care of the minute details!

stedyfred · Jan 2, 2017

I hope that u r always playing the score kid, including taking balls out of play when necessary.

youngstown · Jan 2, 2017

90 / 10 blues

The better your opponent is the smaller that room for error sure gets! Keep playing live opponents and making me jealous. Most of my 1p games are against my 9 year old, lol, so that should tell you how easy i am to beat, eh?

lll · Jan 2, 2017

sappo said:
a few years ago when i was playing everyday there were many times that i would come away feeling the 90/10 blues. i decided to bring a note pad and write down the shots/ situations that caused me to lose games. i kept this up for a few weeks and it became clear that i would make the same kind of errors day in and day out. from there i just concentrated on those things both while playing and while practicing. after a while when i got into certain game situations a red flag would go off and i would recognize that these were situations that had cost me in the past and i was then prepared to executed them properly. it made a difference for me.
i guess what I'm saying is if you know where your weaknesses are you can prepare for them in the future. keith

great advice keith

one pocket guy · Jan 2, 2017

High Confidience

High Confidience

Not over confident.
I believe if you could replay the session on video you would find you were playing so good you went outside your Limitations. I am my worst enemy when I'm playing great. I forget my on moto and shoot the wrong shot because I just felt I was ON. I make it and scratch or miss and the balls punish me with a easy out for my opponent.
This has happened to me many times. I feel like when I do win big is when I'm worrying and thinking al the time.

Mans got to know his Limitations!

cincy_kid · Jan 2, 2017

Thanks for the replies all!

I really think what it boils down to (if I were to answer my own question here) is consistency. Since I don't get to play that often, it's easy to lose focus for even one shot that could cause the whole game to turn around. There aren't many times when I get to the table that I am perplexed with what to do. In fact, the shots come to me pretty quickly and if anything, maybe I need to slow down and look at 2 or 3 different options before deciding on which one is best. Point is, I don't feel like the knowledge part or the moving part or even executing the moving parts are a problem with my current game.

Most of the time, the story is the same with my game no matter who i play. I move pretty good and feel my knowledge is pretty good but I am not a very good ball maker or ball runner. So typically I lose because I get to the shot first but don't capitalize on their mistakes like I should.

However this last match I was moving well AND making balls well. Balls I don't normally shot, I was making them and getting position or playing a good 2 way, everything was adding up to be my best session of 1p I had played. But the games I lost in the set, all boiled down to 1 bad shot to shot choice.

I want to show you how bad it was the last game and how I would give anything to shoot my last shot again

(I will diagram it out and post it here shortly...)

cincy_kid · Jan 2, 2017

sappo said:
a few years ago when i was playing everyday there were many times that i would come away feeling the 90/10 blues. i decided to bring a note pad and write down the shots/ situations that caused me to lose games. i kept this up for a few weeks and it became clear that i would make the same kind of errors day in and day out. from there i just concentrated on those things both while playing and while practicing. after a while when i got into certain game situations a red flag would go off and i would recognize that these were situations that had cost me in the past and i was then prepared to executed them properly. it made a difference for me.
i guess what I'm saying is if you know where your weaknesses are you can prepare for them in the future. keith

Greta advice Keith, I may start doing that...I love it!

cincy_kid · Jan 2, 2017

jtompilot said:
Happens to me most of the time except when I played you. Then it was 60/40

LOL, if that was you playing good 60% and bad 40%, I feel pretty lucky I escaped

- you have a darn good game Jim!

90 / 10 blues

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