I went over every shot mentioned in this thread thus far. I see why you would bank the 8 ball with no English to the side pocket. I see why you may need to use right English on this shot. I also see why you should just shoot the 8 ball in and draw back a bit. Both the 3 and 4 ball being there is what makes this a good choice right? Because then your opponent can simply shoot the ball in but you can return the same shot. So I guess it would be an incorrect choice to draw the cue ball back if there were only one ball on the short rail. I agree with shooting the 8 in and drawing back because you don't want to leave a possible bank shot on the 1. I can't believe all the options for that layout.