One Pocket Ghost
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Ok, now that I've found out how lacking in good/sound judgment the proponents of banking the 4ball are <--- note smiley...I'M BACK WITH REINFORCEMENTS/MORE CALVARY, AND A NEW CHALLENGE...
You see, I feel a responsibility to Larry and others on here looking to learn...so I have to warn them not to listen to certain 'learned' forum members who say the bank on the 4ball is the right shot, and others who call my kick a "nutball shot"...
It took me until today to realize how bad of a choice the bank on the 4ball is, because unlike many forum members, I don't have a home table - and today is the first time I've made it back to the poolroom (Red Shoes) since last Friday to set it up...I lined up the 3 balls behind the spot, with the cueball in the front jaws of my pocket, and found, that...THAT BANK IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT, EXTREMELY LOW PERCENTAGE, ALMOST UNMAKEABLE, ESPECIALLY WHILE HITTING IT WITH INSIDE ENGLISH TO GET THE CUEBALL TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE...
And as for my 'opinion reinforcements'...I set up the layout and showed three top speed bankers/One Pocket players, with 40 years of experience each, the bank on the 4ball, and asked them if they thought the bank was the right shot in that spot - all three said NO - they would not be shooting that bank...and who were these three players?....Ike Runnels, Red Shoes owner John Zaksas (who plays banks even with Jet and Piggybanks) and ex top pro Jeff Carter - these are top-speed bank pool players, and they don't even like the bank......
Now then...In response to my original challenge, Billy said >>>
Ok then, I'll make it totally fair and see if anybody wants to shoot that bank for the money, against my kick...we'll still do best of 10 tries - but we'll separate our tries by an hour or hours between shots, so I can't develop an angle, or a feel or a rhythm for the kick - and, I'LL LET MY OPPONENT PICK A DIFFERENT TABLE OF HIS CHOICE FOR EACH ATTEMPT!...
Now let's see if I get any takers now to my completely fair challenge (I have my fingers crossed )...if I get no action - then we'll know, that they know, that really the bank shot choice is no good, and they're just saying it to be contrary with the Ghost (I wish I had a quarter for every time that that's happened)...
- Bruce-Luke-Ghost
PS, For those of you who haven't set this up on a real table, trust me (or set it up yourself), the bank angle is much more severe and difficult on a real table then it looks here on the wei-table.
PPS, I won't repeat here, the mocking, disdainful things that Freddy said at Red Shoes tonight, about those who would choose to shoot the bank on the 4ball...
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You see, I feel a responsibility to Larry and others on here looking to learn...so I have to warn them not to listen to certain 'learned' forum members who say the bank on the 4ball is the right shot, and others who call my kick a "nutball shot"...
It took me until today to realize how bad of a choice the bank on the 4ball is, because unlike many forum members, I don't have a home table - and today is the first time I've made it back to the poolroom (Red Shoes) since last Friday to set it up...I lined up the 3 balls behind the spot, with the cueball in the front jaws of my pocket, and found, that...THAT BANK IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT, EXTREMELY LOW PERCENTAGE, ALMOST UNMAKEABLE, ESPECIALLY WHILE HITTING IT WITH INSIDE ENGLISH TO GET THE CUEBALL TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE...
And as for my 'opinion reinforcements'...I set up the layout and showed three top speed bankers/One Pocket players, with 40 years of experience each, the bank on the 4ball, and asked them if they thought the bank was the right shot in that spot - all three said NO - they would not be shooting that bank...and who were these three players?....Ike Runnels, Red Shoes owner John Zaksas (who plays banks even with Jet and Piggybanks) and ex top pro Jeff Carter - these are top-speed bank pool players, and they don't even like the bank......
Now then...In response to my original challenge, Billy said >>>
wincardona said:Whoa, you have to give me enough credit to know that I wouldn't let you go to school on your kick attempts to beat me out of my $100. You do realize that everytime you kick at a shot you will improve on your accuracy on the hit? After the third kick you'll probably be the favorite to kick successfully, not true shooting the bank.
Billy I.
Ok then, I'll make it totally fair and see if anybody wants to shoot that bank for the money, against my kick...we'll still do best of 10 tries - but we'll separate our tries by an hour or hours between shots, so I can't develop an angle, or a feel or a rhythm for the kick - and, I'LL LET MY OPPONENT PICK A DIFFERENT TABLE OF HIS CHOICE FOR EACH ATTEMPT!...
Now let's see if I get any takers now to my completely fair challenge (I have my fingers crossed )...if I get no action - then we'll know, that they know, that really the bank shot choice is no good, and they're just saying it to be contrary with the Ghost (I wish I had a quarter for every time that that's happened)...
- Bruce-Luke-Ghost
PS, For those of you who haven't set this up on a real table, trust me (or set it up yourself), the bank angle is much more severe and difficult on a real table then it looks here on the wei-table.
PPS, I won't repeat here, the mocking, disdainful things that Freddy said at Red Shoes tonight, about those who would choose to shoot the bank on the 4ball...
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