Mike Sigel appears on the record books page as winner or runner-up seven times. I'm sorry Mike maybe you will get nominated next year.
I think it's slightly a case of one pocket "players" not considering someone who focuses on games other than one pocket as deserving enough for nomination/induction. Of course, most people on this forum would much more dread matching up with someone who shoots aggressive shots accurately than someone who plays the game the right way. As often as not, sharpshooters seem to beat the one pocket specialists, especially in tournament formats.
What I fail to understand, though, is how Harold Worst! will beat out Ervolino, Clem, and Irish who specialized in one pocket their entire lives. From what I've heard, Worst was just a super talented pool player who found success in one pocket more or less as Sigel did -- by just being super talented. I guess some current old-timers just have nostalgia for the guy because he was a top player from when they were kids. It seems that nostalgia doesn't yet exist for Mike Sigel ...
Big difference in the degree that Efren embraced One Pocket vs those other great all-around players. And talk about a player that inspires others to play the game... no contest.wasnt efren a 15 ball rotation player???
has won the banks and 9 ball??
just sayin
I think it's slightly a case of one pocket "players" not considering someone who focuses on games other than one pocket as deserving enough for nomination/induction. Of course, most people on this forum would much more dread matching up with someone who shoots aggressive shots accurately than someone who plays the game the right way. As often as not, sharpshooters seem to beat the one pocket specialists, especially in tournament formats.
What I fail to understand, though, is how Harold Worst! will beat out Ervolino, Clem, and Irish who specialized in one pocket their entire lives. From what I've heard, Worst was just a super talented pool player who found success in one pocket more or less as Sigel did -- by just being super talented. I guess some current old-timers just have nostalgia for the guy because he was a top player from when they were kids. It seems that nostalgia doesn't yet exist for Mike Sigel ...
I agree 100%. I much prefer to see players nominated/elected who truly embrace/embraced the game of One Pocket -- who are/were ambassadors of this particular game. They don't only play it well as just another game that involved a cue ball and pockets that yes, they can win at because they are ungodly talented players. That is the impression I get from from Sigel, Worst and also Jim Rempe -- another player that won some One Pocket events. There is already a Hall of Fame for these great all around pool players, and all of those guys are already in it, so it's not like we need to feel that they have been neglected.
Buddy Hall, I see differently. After his 9-ball career he truly has embraced One Pocket -- you often hear him doing commentary for example. He has adopted the game as his own.
Big difference in the degree that Efren embraced One Pocket vs those other great all-around players. And talk about a player that inspires others to play the game... no contest.
Good points but I put Jimmy Fusco and Allen Hopkins, who were both superb 9 Ball and 14.1 players in the catgory with Rempe and Sigel and they were nominated and subsequently voted in...your thoughts.
Wedge
Many here have their opinion that this hall of famer could have given another hall of famer a ball and the break, i think that this is not enough to have one swept aside.
Wedge,
I don't know which area of the country you're from, but Jimmy Fusco and Allen Hopkins are not anywhere close to Rempe and Sigel in terms of one pocket experience. I say this because I've had conversations regarding pool & one pocket with all of them, especially Fusco and Hopkins, and I've watched Fusco and Hopkins in action many, many times.
Even though both of them were straight pool champions, they were also among the top one pocket players on the East Coast for decades. Neither Rempe nor Sigel would ever have challenged Fusco or Hopkins to gamble high-stakes even one pocket. Not even close.
Both Fusco and Hopkins have promoted One Pocket tournaments and been involved multiple times with either commentary or instructional videos or both. Also, both have long, long histories of One Pocket competition, and positively representing the game of One Pocket. These are both great examples of exactly the kind of player that belongs in the One Pocket HOF.Good points but I put Jimmy Fusco and Allen Hopkins, who were both superb 9 Ball and 14.1 players in the catgory with Rempe and Sigel and they were nominated and subsequently voted in...your thoughts.
Wedge
There is a West Coat east Coast bias. Should not be there but it is.
The abrasive style of Segal and Ervolino, especially if you were lucky enough to beat them, is something I have experienced first hand, and if it rubbed me the wrong way, I am sure there are others. Sportsmanship is part of the equation too.
John,
Are you making a statement? Should I read between the lines of your post? Existing inductees were not all choir boys, I can think of many instances where they did not display good sportsmanship.
Just curious ...
But Hopkins didn't/doesn't have that abrasive style at all. He's full of self-confidence too, but I've seen him defeated for cash several times and he shook hands and remained friendly and relatively upbeat.