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Interesting list of invitees. Any notable exceptions/inclusions, in your opinion?

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lfigueroa said:
Interesting list of invitees. Any notable exceptions/inclusions, in your opinion?

Lou Figueroa


Lou, I've definitely got an opinion here...regardless of them having maybe one high finish in a years-past One Pocket tournament - I believe that current level of play should have equal bearing...that said...

...I believe that there are three guys that should be in there ahead of:

Leil Gay
Jaime Goodwin
Mitch Ellerman
John Hager jr.
Tang Hoa
Richard Grenier


And those three guys are:

Dee Adkins - former DCC all-around champion.

Niels Feijen - playing consistently excellent One Pocket for the last 5 years at the DCC, with several high finishes - more high finishes than Appleton.

And the most glaring omission - Ike Runnels, plays top speed and has a multitude of high finishes in major One Pocket tournaments over the last 20 years...not to mention that he lives and breathes One Pocket, has paid his 'One Pocket dues' for 35 years and travels everywhere to play high level One Pocket.

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The way we went about selecting was from previous events - us open, derby city, and some legend events. (1st and 2nd place).

We had to 'start' somewhere without just personal opinion.

That is also why we opened the field up - to allow room for the players mentioned (and others).

When we went through the suggestions from the forums and the past champs, we were at something like 80 names.

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That is one heck of a roster there. I am looking forward to being at this event, sure to be something special. :)


You playing?

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One Pocket Ghost said:
Lou, I've definitely got an opinion here...regardless of them having maybe one high finish in a years-past One Pocket tournament - I believe that current level of play should have equal bearing...that said...

...I believe that there are three guys that should be in there ahead of:

Leil Gay
Jaime Goodwin
Mitch Ellerman
John Hager jr.
Tang Hoa
Richard Grenier


And those three guys are:

Dee Adkins - former DCC all-around champion.

Niels Feijen - playing consistently excellent One Pocket for the last 5 years at the DCC, with several high finishes - more high finishes than Appleton.

And the most glaring omission - Ike Runnels, plays top speed and has a multitude of high finishes in major One Pocket tournaments over the last 20 years...not to mention that he lives and breathes One Pocket, has paid his 'One Pocket dues' for 35 years and travels everywhere to play high level One Pocket.

- Ghost


Ghost, I think the guys you mention would all be worthy invitees. Particularly, Ike -- a 1pocket war horse. I could be wrong, but didn't Dee hurt himself or something and has not been playing as much?

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lfigueroa said:
You playing?

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Hey Lou, I am not playing as the entry is a little too much for a bad player like me to play in, save the spots for some of the top players and legends. The DCC was the most expensive one pocket tournament I played in but with it just being a little more than the spectator pass I figured I would give it a shot. I will give you a call in about an hour, getting my son off to school.
 

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lfigueroa said:
Ghost, I think the guys you mention would all be worthy invitees. Particularly, Ike -- a 1pocket war horse. I could be wrong, but didn't Dee hurt himself or something and has not been playing as much?

Lou Figueroa

He shut down Sylver at the Derby, Dee plays great and it would be good to see him play in this. :)
 

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Well written Lenny... Tap, tap, tap....


I see the fire but nothing is burning. Whenever I use to see a lot off conflicte and woffing.

The only way to settle it is make a game both people agree on and see who backs down.

Talk is cheap and everyone can talk nomatter how they express themselves. Its no about what you say but what you learn. Is anyone realy learning.

I have seen nothing bur butterness and anfer. I see people getting attackt and ganged up on. And everyone has thier little clicks. I realy dont see anyone standing up by tmemselves.

And everything saud gets attacket. When will the time come when people will work together. Rather then taring each other apart.

Take a look at each other. And look at the person like a human being And realy get too no and understand each other. Look around you and be aware off what the person realy is.

And mosy off all we need too take a look at ourselves. And who we are. And once we are gone what will people say we were. And how did they see us.

But comon sense will make us a better person. Noy who is wright or wrong.

If I can get a million too on I will bet I win the one opocket tournement in Las Vegas. Mark Griffen knowes THose would be the wright odds for me too win the tournement.

When in reality it should be off the board because the only way I could win is for everyone to drop dead. And thier too healthy too drop dead.

I dont no what Happened on the hundred thousand dollar game with SCott and Shane playing with me coaching shane. I guess its too good a game too watch. It would be the best game out off all the matches.

And look at all the things people could learn. I no Fat Boy could get it done. But I will waite and see if he replies. I always wanted too see the best play and see what has too be done for them too get beat.

And they might even but up a price on the match and Book it. Like Pinnacale. They have the sharpest handycappers. See if they have enough balls too put up a price. They have enough money since they are getting a Casino in New Orleans.

But if the read this reply. But up a price its a good tough game. Scott is a favorite but not by much. So you think pinnacle will reply or have enough balls too but up a price.

Since they put up a price on any sports event. Even Darts. Or maybe someone can go on thier site and ask them too but up a price. They can only win whatever price they put up.

Maybe threy will put up prices on all the one pocket matches. And make it a bigger eveny.
 

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U.S.Open One Pocket Tournament.

U.S.Open One Pocket Tournament.

There is no argument that every player on the invite list is,or was,a highly respected one pocket player.Why not have a seperate "Legends Division" for the players that fit into that catergory.To have these players in the main tournament field is unfair to not only the field,it's unfair to the paying fans in attendance.It would be more competive for everyone involved.
 

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James Galati said:
There is no argument that every player on the invite list is,or was,a highly respected one pocket player.Why not have a seperate "Legends Division" for the players that fit into that catergory.To have these players in the main tournament field is unfair to not only the field,it's unfair to the paying fans in attendance.It would be more competive for everyone involved.

I think that would be an excellent idea Jim...Don't know if the logistics would allow for it, in this format this year, but its a great thought, and maybe Mark will look at it for future events.

I plan on playing, even though I know I am not competetive any more. And I agree, it does dilute the product, if the spectators are looking for only top quality play.

That being said,...If the field were to fill up, I would feel bad if I kept some deserving, highly qualified player from competing. I would seriously consider selling my spot to such a person, if that were allowed.

But realistically, there are only about 6 or 8 guys, that really figure to have a chance to win it...(barring of course a 2011 DCC type 1P final :)) ...The rest of the field is just fodder to add to the prize fund...nothing new there..;)

PS..And if it fills up, thats 22K worth of "fodder"...not too shabby eh ?
 
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Danny Harriman?

Danny Harriman?

I thought Danny Harriman might be on that list. He has won alot of matches against many of those on that list.....:rolleyes:

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US Open One Pocket

US Open One Pocket

WOW -

Remember this event started as a 32 man field. We went and picked ONLY those that had come in 1st or 2nd in a major event.

Now the field has been expanded to 64 - which allows ALL the other players to come and play.

We are not having two divisions.

We made this a reasonable price (not $550 like the 10-Ball) because we want to support the game of One Pocket.

The list of invited players is just that - Invited Players. No special prices or any kind of special treatment. Just a courtesy to the playing skills, and their past record.

I am hoping we get a good field. This is a test and if the game passes this test, it will have a permanent place in Las Vegas.


I agree Danny Harriman is a very good one pocket player. But he has not been in the top 2 in any major event. It is hard to draw a line anywhere.

So we did the best we can do. There is plenty of room for any player that wants to play.

The important thing is that there is no favoritism to anyone. Everyone pays and everyone gets treated the same. Period.

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markgriffin said:
WOW -

Remember this event started as a 32 man field. We went and picked ONLY those that had come in 1st or 2nd in a major event.

Now the field has been expanded to 64 - which allows ALL the other players to come and play.

We are not having two divisions.

We made this a reasonable price (not $550 like the 10-Ball) because we want to support the game of One Pocket.

The list of invited players is just that - Invited Players. No special prices or any kind of special treatment. Just a courtesy to the playing skills, and their past record.

I am hoping we get a good field. This is a test and if the game passes this test, it will have a permanent place in Las Vegas.


I agree Danny Harriman is a very good one pocket player. But he has not been in the top 2 in any major event. It is hard to draw a line anywhere.

So we did the best we can do. There is plenty of room for any player that wants to play.

The important thing is that there is no favoritism to anyone. Everyone pays and everyone gets treated the same. Period.

Mark Griffin

Knock 'em dead Mark!! Sounds like a fantastic time and I'm jealous as hell, I can't be there. I wanted to get a interview with you, but I kept forgetting whenever I saw you, there was always too much going on.

Nice meeting you and I'll nag you next time!
 

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James Galati said:
There is no argument that every player on the invite list is,or was,a highly respected one pocket player.Why not have a seperate "Legends Division" for the players that fit into that catergory.To have these players in the main tournament field is unfair to not only the field,it's unfair to the paying fans in attendance.It would be more competive for everyone involved.


I get your point, but as someone else has already pointed out, realistically, there's only a half dozen who might win and probably a dozen and a half who have a chance to cash. The rest of the field is cannon fodder, which is fine, because it is a cool thing to get in there, donate, support the event, and mix it up with the best in the world.

On that note: I would have to say that one of the reasons folks volunteer to be cannon fodder is for: "The US One Pocket Open Experience." And to me, that means your entry fee should buy you a minimum of two races to four. I know that there are time and table constraints, but if you are on the Cannon Fodder Team, at least the two races to four with the All-Stars makes you feel like you're getting your monies worth, IMO.

Lou Figueroa
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US Open One Pocket - races

US Open One Pocket - races

Lou,

I would love to go to 4 on both sides. It is a time issue. We will do this year's event and make adjustments for next year.

if the field does not fill up, there is a good possibility of extending the races.

At least we will have a real good handle on the match lengths.

And since this is one CTS, it will track the length of the matches to the minute. Which will allow us to ID the slow players and other issues.

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markgriffin said:
Lou,

I would love to go to 4 on both sides. It is a time issue. We will do this year's event and make adjustments for next year.

if the field does not fill up, there is a good possibility of extending the races.

At least we will have a real good handle on the match lengths.

And since this is one CTS, it will track the length of the matches to the minute. Which will allow us to ID the slow players and other issues.

mark Griffin


Mark, thanks for all the info. I truly hope you find a way to make it races to four on both sides -- I can't emphasize enough how big a deal it is to members of Team Cannon Fodder (and probably the pros fighting out on the B side too). Everyone at Kalamazoo used to say it made the tournament for them.

Lou Figueroa
 
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